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by brassmedic
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: TromboneChat Forums / Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 357
Views: 204453

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

[quote=BGuttman post_id=118682 time=1593830858 user_id=53] [quote=brassmedic post_id=118679 time=1593830300 user_id=4102]
I searched this whole thread for the part that says, "Hey guys, let's not allow Schlitz to play [i]anything[/i] by Fillmore." Funny, I couldn't find it. :lol: [/quote]
No, but I did read the following:

1. Because the subtitles of Lassus Trombone are racist we should stop playing anything by Henry Fillmore. Fillmore wrote over 300 pieces and only 15 are in the "trombone family".
2. Because the original advertising for Lassus Trombone appears to be racist we should all stop playing it. But we should ignore any other music that might be racist, anti-semitic, anti Chinese, etc. because we are considering the Fillmore Trombone Rags to be the only music worthy of consideration. [/quote]
No you didn't.

http://www.trombonechat.com/search.php?keywords=we+should+stop+playing+anything+by+Henry+Fillmore&t=15627&sf=msgonly
by BGuttman
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: TromboneChat Forums / Performance
Topic: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone
Replies: 357
Views: 204453

Re: TIme to ditch Lassus Trombone

[quote=brassmedic post_id=118679 time=1593830300 user_id=4102] [quote=Schlitz post_id=118661 time=1593824450 user_id=70] There's more to Fillmore than the Trombone Family of smears. I should have the choice to play them, or not. [/quote] I searched this whole thread for the part that says, "Hey guys, let's not allow Schlitz to play [i]anything[/i] by Fillmore." Funny, I couldn't find it. :lol: [/quote] No, but I did read the following:

1. Because the subtitles of Lassus Trombone are racist we should stop playing anything by Henry Fillmore. Fillmore wrote over 300 pieces and only 15 are in the "trombone family".
2. Because the original advertising for Lassus Trombone appears to be racist we should all stop playing it. But we should ignore any other music that might be racist, anti-semitic, anti Chinese, etc. because we are considering the Fillmore Trombone Rags to be the only music worthy of consideration.
by BGuttman
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:28 pm
Forum: TromboneChat Forums / Performance
Topic: What's a good smear tune that isn't Lassus?
Replies: 124
Views: 27916

Re: What's a good smear tune that isn't Lassus?

I don't want to bring back Minstrel shows; they wouldn't appeal to today's audiences anyway. Maybe a single performance to show what the genre was.

I also think it's wrong to choose not to play anything by Henry Fillmore (or any of his pen names) just because of the Trombone Family; any more than you should stop playing all Arthur Pryor solos because he wrote a piece called "Coon Band Revue". (Incidentally, I tried playing this piece, now renamed Cake Walk Contest, and I thought he wrote a lot better stuff to perform.)

As trombone pieces that feature the gliss (smear, portamento), Fillmore's pieces are better than some others. That's why we still see them from time to time.

Note that I chose to play Shoutin' Liza because I prefer it to Lassus (and I could point out the quote from Handel). I rarely play any of the other pieces because I just don't like them.