TromboneChat

Quote from: Wes Funderburk on Feb 06, 2011, 07:57PM
It's an hour long.. Pace yourselves.


I thought YouTube had about a 10 minute limit.  How do you guys get around that?

Quote from: SilverBone on Feb 06, 2011, 10:53PMI thought YouTube had about a 10 minute limit.  How do you guys get around that?


They play real fast?

S.

Quote from: sabutin on Feb 06, 2011, 11:05PMThey play real fast?


Some of it is indeed real fast, but they also spend a fair amount of time goofing around pretty slowly.  I listened to the whole hour.

Quote from: SilverBone on Feb 07, 2011, 01:06AMSome of it is indeed real fast, but they also spend a fair amount of time goofing around pretty slowly.  I listened to the whole hour.

That's some serious goofing around, though.. I don't know how Tom skirted the 10 minute rule. He's got connections, I suppose. haha.. Good times.

Wes Funderburk
www.Funderbone.com

Wes, I did not in any intend to impugn your (or Tom's) goofing around mastery.   

It is goofing around of the highest quality!

Wes- you have any idea how long it will be before Dr. Gibson posts the first page of that book of duets. You two seemed to hype it up quite a bit as something we *need* to see.

Quote from: John Beers Jr. on Feb 07, 2011, 01:26PMWes- you have any idea how long it will be before Dr. Gibson posts the first page of that book of duets. You two seemed to hype it up quite a bit as something we *need* to see.

I'm not sure if he did but you can check through the archives of his podcast at:

http://tbonegib.podbean.com/

or iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/trombonelessons-com-video/id211712645

He's got a ton of great info in his podcasts.. Tom and I have done a few duet sessions that are really, really funny, too. Go check 'em out..

....didn't mean to hijack the 'youtube trombonists thread' with non-youtube related material. 

Wes Funderburk
www.Funderbone.com

John, I was pretty excited to see Dr. Tom and Wes play the Urbie Green duet.  I have had a set of photocopies of 4 of these duets hanging around for at least 40 years.  Never knew where they came from

I wrote to Dr. Tom, and he told me that Wes has the duets but that he also has only a partial set.  I'm trying to find out if Wes and I together could put together a full set of the duets.  I do not have the duet played in the video.

I can't find them for sale anywhere, or even any indication that they ever were for sale.

The four duets I have are a lot of fun, but quite difficult.  I've shown them to a few people, and they don't want to play them with me.

Quote from: SilverBone on Feb 07, 2011, 01:58PM I've shown them to a few people, and they don't want to play them with me.

You think that's bad- I dropped $50+shipping-from-the-UK for a set of parts to Mr. Roberts by Ilja Reijngould (from Ben van Dijk's CD "Nana") 5-6 years ago.

Finding four other people willing to bang their heads against something this hard (including a bass bone soloist, I wouldn't dream of trying that part myself) is probably about as challenging as playing the piece.

Quote from: John Beers Jr. on Feb 07, 2011, 02:03PMYou think that's bad- I dropped $50+shipping-from-the-UK for a set of parts to Mr. Roberts by Ilja Reijngould (from Ben van Dijk's CD "Nana") 5-6 years ago.

Finding four other people willing to bang their heads against something this hard (including a bass bone soloist, I wouldn't dream of trying that part myself) is probably about as challenging as playing the piece.

Hey, I'm in, and I bet my bass-bone-playing duet partner would love to give it a try.  Now all you need is one more player and a plane ticket to Portland, OR.

Apologies to all for thread-hijacking.

I found this on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94YEBjk8prY

My god, wow is all to say. On one of his youtube videos he play a quiet tune in a church, then this did show up. Big variation in his way to express trombone.

Leif

Here's a little gem, johnny Mercer singing his own composition " Somethings Gotta' Give" with the Harry Roche constellation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4DVpH_j6Pk

Enjoy

BellEnd

Quote from: Bellend on Feb 10, 2011, 04:06PMHere's a little gem, johnny Mercer singing his own composition " Somethings Gotta' Give" with the Harry Roche constellation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4DVpH_j6Pk

Enjoy

BellEnd

I gotta comment on that. What a cooking brass section! I loved the arrangement, and Johnny Mercer can really sing,too. Stage presence be dammed.

Quote from: Orestes on Feb 10, 2011, 06:40PMI gotta comment on that. What a cooking brass section! I loved the arrangement, and Johnny Mercer can really sing,too. Stage presence be dammed.


He was a bit long in the tooth at that point, he had plenty of stage presence in his younger days.  Recall he was known first as a singer (for Paul Whiteman), then predominantly as a lyricist who could also sing.

i did several vids for Martin Cohen last year...a couple of which got lots of attention.  ironically, the performances with which i was most pleased experienced the least notice.  this was one of those, wherein i was paired in performance with the great drummer, Victor Jones.  we had a ball that afternoon listening to his tales of hanging with Art Blakey and being in Stan Getz's band.  i first met Victor when Slide put the World of Trombones back together for the Spirit of the Horn recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJMV6ZqbYc&feature=relmfu

Hello !

Here's a video of Adrian Mears playing Lonely Woman... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmyQm59bgxA

Never too much Big T:

Basin Street
http://www.20sjazz.com/videos/singers/basin-street.html

Be sure to watch all the way to the funny ending.

Quote from: SilverBone on Mar 16, 2011, 12:50PMNever too much Big T:

Basin Street
http://www.20sjazz.com/videos/singers/basin-street.html

Be sure to watch all the way to the funny ending.

I agree!

Regarding the "Look out folks, I'm gonna take a trambone coda" 'funny ending': That was Big T's standard ending for Basin Street and is on several recordings I have, except that he often could not make up his mind if was a 'Coda' or a 'Cadenza'. Notice how he hesitated before saying "Coda" on the video.

Quote from: Graham Martin on Mar 16, 2011, 04:10PM I'm gonna take a trambone coda" 'funny ending': That was Big T's standard ending for Basin Street and is on several recordings I have, except that he often could not make up his mind if was a 'Coda' or a 'Cadenza'. Notice how he hesitated before saying "Coda" on the video.

Didn't know that.  So I went and found another trambone coda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHR3KNak-Ic&feature=player_embedded

In this latter video, I'm pretty sure he's playing a Williams.  Couldn't figure out what he was playing the video I posted above.

Here's a great one by Ben Griffin, on two weeks of lessons!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx4AVAkzTGY&feature=player_embedded

What a natural!

(I searched to see if anyone else had already posted.  And as per usual, I can't tell, using either the search function or google.)

Whoa, I remember that night!  In partial explanation, that band has a loyal following that goes in for that kind of humor.  And there was not an insignificant amount of beer consumed as well.  Glad you enjoyed it!

Ben

Joe Alessi with the Alabama Wind Ensemble.

Bourgeois Concerto., mvt 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yff7sr560

He obviously shaped it nicely beforehand.

Tommy Pedersson in a funny "bumble bee" version:  Piano player has a cold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPKkZAchky4&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_stronger_r2-2r-3-HM

Leif

Quote from: D Gibson on Feb 19, 2011, 09:39AMi did several vids for Martin Cohen last year...a couple of which got lots of attention.  ironically, the performances with which i was most pleased experienced the least notice.  this was one of those, wherein i was paired in performance with the great drummer, Victor Jones.  we had a ball that afternoon listening to his tales of hanging with Art Blakey and being in Stan Getz's band.  i first met Victor when Slide put the World of Trombones back together for the Spirit of the Horn recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJMV6ZqbYc&feature=relmfu

Ohh I didn't see this. Beautiful!! I have a wish David.  This is a setting that makes it so interesting and intimate. Its only two instruments and its so easy to follow what both do. I like this video so much. You play together so good.    Must be fun? My wish is to make more like this intimate setting. But make it also only for acoustic bass and you. Or only a piano and you. Or why not just a singer and you? Nothing else. A female voice will make it nice with the dark trombone. Or a violin? ...anything.

Maybe all this intimate setting makes things more demanding, but for us that listen so interesting.  And remember also for us so easy to follow. Only two things to listen. I just wish I could do just a little bit of this my self. But don't think I have the fantasy or mind to make it. I'm too blocked in the head if I try. I still try when no one is listen.
Anyway more of this.....so beautiful to listen!!

Leif

Leif,

you always offer such interesting perspectives. thank you for sharing your thoughts as they always seem to be fueled by passion in search of musical discovery.  i will ponder your request and see where it leads.

DG

I listen it more today, and if I should learn something there is very clear you make sections out of it? I have some questions, but it seems you two had a plan before you did It?  There is periods of 8 bars? And you start carefully with a kind of theme. I believe you play 8 periods with every section you add a new style, perspective to your improvisation. In the end you go back to the theme and leave it over to the drummer. You help him a little with some trombone "noises" here and there that inspire him  He likes it. 

After this you just stop counting bars and just are very free both? As an ending?
I really like this!!

But how do you count bars when playing? There is no chord instruments in the comp that help you. You have to count them at the same time you improvise? Or is the 8 bars periods in the blood? It seem to be so with the drummer too? I just know I cant count if I try to improvise and play at the same time. (I cant improvise either) It must be built in with the musical mind? You just feel it?

Anyway great music. 

(I like a small setting like this because we always listen a full band or full comp section, that's great but this make another and more interesting perspective to it? A duo make more attention to both instruments? )

Leif

Some nice trombone here I discovered recently from Don Lusher:

"Everything Happens To Me" with The Best Of British Jazz" (Ain't that the truth!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NSjdKXyiw

And here with the very British sound of a Northern brass band (said with appropriate accent) playing "Suite for Trombone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHDeJYNs64g&feature=related

And here soloing with the Agnes Street Band playing a gorgeous "Sarabande en Bleu"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pb8t4e4jNA

I miss Don. I had a couple of lessons from him when I was a very young man.

Not heard of this guy before, Dave Graf............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH2J_mnLLBo

Some really nice lines

Isaac Smith - Curtis Fuller meets John Coltrane meets Pharoah Sanders meets Alice Coltrane? Heavy stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmPFzeBiJTs

Quote from: bds9992 on Apr 01, 2011, 11:06PMIsaac Smith - Curtis Fuller meets John Coltrane meets Pharoah Sanders meets Alice Coltrane? Heavy stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmPFzeBiJTs



First time hearing him......I like his style. Here's more of him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a00juzOwbjo

Quote from: griffinben on Mar 19, 2011, 09:29PMWhoa, I remember that night!  In partial explanation, that band has a loyal following that goes in for that kind of humor.  And there was not an insignificant amount of beer consumed as well.  Glad you enjoyed it!

Ben

No explanation needed (the 'Brewing Co.' sign in the background does fine). I love that style of playing and you sound fantastic. The pianist does a good job of 'striding it up' during his solo but not overdoing it on the comping. Sounds like a horrifying room acoustically but the band sounds great.

Quote from: bds9992 on Apr 01, 2011, 11:06PMIsaac Smith - Curtis Fuller meets John Coltrane meets Pharoah Sanders meets Alice Coltrane? Heavy stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmPFzeBiJTs



A friend of mine lives near Isaac - he used to listen to him practice on his rooftop for 8+ hours a day.  He's intense.  That video sounds great.

I recently heard him on a Johnny Blas album called Skin and Bones featuring Isaac, Francisco Torres, Steve Baxter and Dan Weinstein - that's a four bone horn line latin jazz album, everyone should check it out.

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1258749/a/Skin+And+Bones.htm

I would love to get in touch with Isaac. Where is he living? What's he doing? Any way I can get some information? PM is cool too.

Quote from: Chris Fidler on Apr 01, 2011, 05:33PMNot heard of this guy before, Dave Graf............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH2J_mnLLBo

Some really nice lines

Dave is a local guy, he plays with JazzMN here in Minneapolis. He's always fun to hear, he's going to have some competition on Saturday night when Andy Martin is the guest performer with JazzMN at Hopkins High School's theater.

I'm sure as heck going to be there

Check this video out -

Killin playing from all.   Isaac Smith's solo starts at around 6 min if you want to fast forward to it.  Deep stuff...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz-xf2EAwFo&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJmxtwOMmI&feature=related

Some Frank Rosolino I'd never heard....he was such a beautiful ballad player, something mostly forgotten by many after hearing his incredible technique at tempos.

I think I'll start a "rare" Frank trax subject on this one.

Go groove,

Here's me wearing a 'wifebeater' tank top while sustaining a High F and using a neti pot at the same the same time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGsejWgm1vE

Enjoy.

Wes Funderburk
www.Funderbone.com

Quote from: ctingle on Apr 09, 2011, 09:14PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJmxtwOMmI&feature=related

Some Frank Rosolino I'd never heard....he was such a beautiful ballad player, something mostly forgotten by many after hearing his incredible technique at tempos.

Go groove,

Yep, I also found that one looking down the suggestions on YouTube when looking at the previous postings. Beautiful! And I still reckon Frank uses t-k-t multiple tonguing most of the time.

I also liked "Lover Man":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Qv9kQYPI0&feature=related

Oh, wow! I don't mind a lot of notes when Frank does 'em. And they're all over the range.

I have often joked on this forum that it took me 40 years to eliminate the Chris Barber influence from my playing. Chris had a hugely popular traditional jazz (and blues) band in the UK from the 1950s to the present day. After listening to some of these videos of his new big band from 2011 in their tribute to Duke Ellington, I am not so sure that I was right about eliminating that influence - I never could anyway.

The solos by Chris and Bob Hunt on this video of "Black And Tan Fantasy/The Mooche are excellent. Chris Barber's solo is quite close to the original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKufyz-21_4

And I am jealous as hell about that band because I tried to do the same thing by forming a Cotton Club type band last year. I have not given up entirely on that project but we are presently taking 5 on it.

The trumpet player 'Magic' Mike Henry, from memory, is a mate of Christine's and has played with her band.

BTW, Chris Barber has just turned 81 years young!

I'm sure a lot of people know about this album, but I just got into it a few months ago and this is IT every time I hear it. The arrangement is the best example of hard bop or post bop or whatever one would call it.  Dex's melodies on the first bridge and Slide's solo...just amazing.

Slide Hampton and Dexter Gordon "You Don't Know What Love Is" A Day In Copenhagen, 1969.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDWRcw4-ZFc

Yep. You know how I feel about that one, Nick.

Quote from: ntap on Apr 19, 2011, 09:58PMI'm sure a lot of people know about this album, but I just got into it a few months ago and this is IT every time I hear it. The arrangement is the best example of hard bop or post bop or whatever one would call it.  Dex's melodies on the first bridge and Slide's solo...just amazing.
I love that particular arrangement but to my mind it is very much swing with a dose of left hand bebop drumming. Hard bop? I am never quite sure about that description. This recording is certainly much hotter than say Miles and Coltrane playing hard bop in the early 50s.

By coincidence, I went to sleep last night listening to Jimmy Cleveland and his all stars playing "You Don't Know What Love Is". It is so different in its approach. Ain't that the beauty of jazz!

Quote from: D Gibson on Apr 20, 2011, 01:58AMYep. You know how I feel about that one, Nick.

You inspired that, Dave.  I've been listening to that album ever since we got together last **winter**. 

I just unpacked all of my LP's that have been in storage for the past 6 years since our fire, and "A Day In Copenhagen" is one of the ones I noticed right away.  So much great stuff to listen to again.

Quote from: ntap on Apr 21, 2011, 07:36PMYou inspired that, Dave.  I've been listening to that album ever since we got together last weekend. 


last weekend???  i've transcribed much of that recording...but what strikes me about Slide's playing from that period is how much of the "bird" vernacular is still present in pieces and allusions while being manipulated to imply the "modern" harmonic concepts that were being explored by Trane, Woody Shaw, et al.  much of that was lost on me when i was younger since i just hadn't listened to as much music and/or internalized the language of swing, bebop, hard-bop, etc...  similarly, you can't really appreciate Chick without knowing Bud Powell and Monk...or Herbie without knowing Wynton Kelly...the years just add more depth and texture to the performances on this recording. 

dg

Quote from: D Gibson on Apr 23, 2011, 09:17AM
last weekend???  i've transcribed much of that recording...but what strikes me about Slide's playing from that period is how much of the "bird" vernacular is still present in pieces and allusions while being manipulated to imply the "modern" harmonic concepts that were being explored by Trane, Woody Shaw, et al.  much of that was lost on me when i was younger since i just hadn't listened to as much music and/or internalized the language of swing, bebop, hard-bop, etc...  similarly, you can't really appreciate Chick without knowing Bud Powell and Monk...or Herbie without knowing Wynton Kelly...the years just add more depth and texture to the performances on this recording. 

dg

Woops! Last winter is what I meant.

Fred Wesley on Autumn Leaves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJIaXnZyfkw&NR=1

That's really nice to hear Fred play great melodic lines like that; not his "usual" style.

 

My brother caught me practicing outdoor this afternoon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47pTIo0LTmM