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by hyperbolica
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 30H for swing?
Replies: 3
Views: 202

Re: Conn 30H for swing?

Oh, yeah, a 30h is a great horn, especially for swing. It will be darker than the 2b for sure. If you're comfortable with the 2B size and the Conn sound, 30h is a great horn. The sound will be dark for the size, but the punch/articulation will feel like the smaller bore horn. I think you'll have to ...
by hyperbolica
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Any Benge players out there?
Replies: 32
Views: 2232

Re: Any Benge players out there?

A few days ago, I bought a Benge 175 (no f-att) built in ca. 1986, according to the serial number 159nnn. Wow, that's a horn I'd like to play. I owned a 175 w/f for a while, and it was really nice, very similar to my 79h, the only post-1970 horn that came that close to my 79h. You might try a Bach ...
by hyperbolica
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 539

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

For a while I owned a 1969 Elkhart 88h and a ~2005 8HT at the same time (I've since sold the 8h, due most likely to temporary insanity). To me the 88h is the standard by which I rate everything else, and the 8HT was right up there. Between the lack of the extra weight and restriction of the valve an...
by hyperbolica
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Friedman
Replies: 9
Views: 646

Re: Holton Friedman

I had the 156 in the late 80s, same horn without the screw bell. At that time my chops were in great shape, and I played with an orchestra that could handle a lot of Brass. It was a monster horn for orchestra.
by hyperbolica
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Picture of large rotary valve?
Replies: 2
Views: 184

Re: Picture of large rotary valve?

Facebook. Rath R6 valve.

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by hyperbolica
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!
Replies: 33
Views: 860

Re: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!

The line it points to is middle C. Learn it. It opens all sorts of musical options to you that are otherwise unavailable. If you don't learn it, the best you'll ever be able to do is second chair.

ps, did you know there's also an alto clef?
by hyperbolica
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Old guy rant
Replies: 101
Views: 1985

Re: Old guy rant

In regards to texting vs email, yes texting is way easier because it goes directly to us. Emails you have to check yourself and often are full of garbage (especially mine), and because of that some of the good stuff gets filtered out. Both email and text work on a phone. Both email and text have to...
by hyperbolica
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Some really odd bass instruments
Replies: 4
Views: 355

Re: Some really odd bass instruments

Finetales wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:43 pm
That first one looks like Jim Self's Jimbasso.
And so it is. Cool link.
by hyperbolica
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Some really odd bass instruments
Replies: 4
Views: 355

Some really odd bass instruments

For whatever reason I was watching an old cimbasso choir video. The world is full of odd stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbuXqTJBew and I saw something that looks like a cross between a cimbasso and a baritone horn. He appears to be sitting next to a bass trumpet player. Is this just a home ...
by hyperbolica
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds S-24G Bass Trombone - Tell Me More
Replies: 10
Views: 434

Re: Olds S-24G Bass Trombone - Tell Me More

I've never played the S, but I've owned the P24g and it was one of my favorites. I think the smaller valves might doom the S. The P has a very clear sound. Great for big band where you compete with a strong Bari player. One of the best of the small basses. Olds are very under rated - that said, ergo...
by hyperbolica
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Old guy rant
Replies: 101
Views: 1985

Re: Old guy rant

There are so many proprietary systems, if you want to communicate you have to be versatile on a number of them. If you want work, you have to follow the lead of the people who are hiring you. So if some millennial has to stoop to using email or text, so be it. All these systems are pretty much the s...
by hyperbolica
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Band Member with B.O. Problem
Replies: 14
Views: 703

Re: Band Member with B.O. Problem

Enlist his wife to help you, assuming he's got one.
by hyperbolica
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: 1941 & 1936 Conn 30h
Replies: 7
Views: 381

Re: FS: 1941 & 1936 Conn 30h

These things are really great small bore instruments, but unfortunately, people don't want them so much any more, and they don't command the price they should command. Like the Bach NY 6.
by hyperbolica
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Bass as best
Replies: 7
Views: 315

Re: Bass as best

This would really depend on the player and the range needed for the performance. Plus, there are basses and then there are basses, which is to say there's a lot of fuzzy area between an 88h and a dual thayer Edwards with dual bore slide. I really like horns like the Holton 159, or Olds George Robert...
by hyperbolica
Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Horn questions and input
Replies: 28
Views: 1335

Re: Horn questions and input

A cheap option is the Yamaha 683G, the successor of the 645 but more smooth and rounder in sound. 8 bell Very near to the 78H Those Yamahas are 8.5" bells, and discontinued, just for info. 630/640 are the new models (straight/F att). https://www.thebrass-exchange.com/content/yamaha-ysl-683g-gold-br...
by hyperbolica
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Horn questions and input
Replies: 28
Views: 1335

Re: Horn questions and input

I own a 32h, 79h and an Elkhart 88h w/525 and 547 slides. I play mostly in community orchestras, trombone choir, and trombone quartet. My go to horn for any general playing including high notes is my 79h. 79h is not the same as a 78h. I've never played a 78h that I liked. It gets too bright at high ...
by hyperbolica
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Converting a 6H slide to .508 bore and Nickel slide tubes
Replies: 8
Views: 301

Re: Converting a 6H slide to .508 bore and Nickel slide tubes

I was considering this same conversion a while ago. I went through a Yamaha 891, a Shires Michael Davis Plus and have lately settled on a 32h. Both the Yamaha and the Shires were fine horns, I just wanted something with more character. I love my 79h, but every 78h I've played tends to get crass at h...
by hyperbolica
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: WTB: Time, Balance & Connections
Replies: 8
Views: 398

Re: WTB: Time, Balance & Connections

if I could readily afford the $70 for his book I wouldn't be asking about a used copy here. No, nothing is illegal here, but if information is important to you, support the people who provide it. Yes, sharing or selling copies is legal, but yes, it also deprives the author of income. To make writin...
by hyperbolica
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Trombone podcasts
Replies: 14
Views: 1000

Re: Trombone podcasts

Seeing him recommended next to some really great musicians (AND speakers!) like Sarah Willis and Ian Bousfield...kinda pinched a nerve. I just posted Trent's link without passing judgment. He posts a lot of stuff. I sometimes find some of it informative or entertaining. He obviously aims his materi...
by hyperbolica
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:55 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
Topic: WTB: Time, Balance & Connections
Replies: 8
Views: 398

Re: WTB: Time, Balance & Connections

You know, just buy the book. Authors don't write stuff unless they make something from it. They don't owe you, and it doesn't cost that much. You're not punishing some soulless multinational corporation by buying used, you're punishing Sam, which is unfair. If he doesn't make anything on his writing...
by hyperbolica
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Trombone podcasts
Replies: 14
Views: 1000

Re: Trombone podcasts

Horn Hangouts with Sarah Willis (Berlin Phil) has some interesting interviews from time to time: https://sarah-willis.com/horn-hangouts/ ...especially this one with the World Trombone Quartet, including Joe Alessi. https://sarah-willis.com/episodes/the-world-trombone-quartet/ Paul the Trombonist... ...
by hyperbolica
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:26 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 3b (and others) history
Replies: 19
Views: 2953

Re: King 3b (and others) history

I'm curious about when the 3B changed from Concert to Legend?
by hyperbolica
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: What makes the bass trombone challenging to learn?
Replies: 24
Views: 908

Re: What makes the bass trombone challenging to learn?

All the other topics are great, especially weight and air. The one I don't think anyone has addressed is boredom. 80% of the time, bass bone parts are just boring, especially when compared to tenor parts. Sometimes a part comes along that makes bass fun to play, but most of the time not. You don't a...
by hyperbolica
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Back to playing after a long break - bass tbh m/p advice
Replies: 8
Views: 568

Re: Back to playing after a long break - bass tbh m/p advice

If air is a premium for you, you might try a Ferguson V.
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Getting serious again, need some guidance
Replies: 15
Views: 543

Re: Getting serious again, need some guidance

There are probably a lot of us in the same boat here. I'll be interested in what other people have to say too. I think first you have to decide where you want to go. Do you really want to be an orchestral player, concert band demon, jazzer, chamber music guy, ska player? Make sure the fundamentals a...
by hyperbolica
Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Your most mind blowing experience playing trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 608

Re: Your most mind blowing experience playing trombone

I was playing as a ringer brought in to a local college music program and they decided to cut a brass, organ and choir album of Bruckner. We played brass choir stuff with organ and voice. But the greatest highlight was recording some trombone trio stuff with two Eastman students standing in the midd...
by hyperbolica
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: Trombone Christmas
Replies: 18
Views: 886

Re: Trombone Christmas

In our local event, which was on the smaller side, I think the organizer controlled who got what parts, although we were allowed to suggest which we wanted. I was willing to fill in as needed on tenor or bass, so I got the 5th book, along with both of the conductors who alternated playing and conduc...
by hyperbolica
Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Gigs, Events, Jobs, & Vacancies
Topic: Trombone Christmas
Replies: 18
Views: 886

Trombone Christmas

I participated in a Trombone Christmas for the first time this year. While it was fun to perform upbeat music for a nice crowd in a public place to share a little positivity at this time of year, I was as they say non-plussed by the rest of the experience. The people playing first parts raced to the...
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve trombone suggestions?
Replies: 14
Views: 507

Re: Valve trombone suggestions?

If you're interested in valved instruments for ergonomic reasons, I'd encourage you to look at front-valve euphoniums or old school American baritones. These are similar to the Trombonium. I have had problems with my left arm, and the front valve wessex festivo allows me to play without pain, in any...
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bell storage
Replies: 3
Views: 210

Re: Bell storage

I hang extra slides on a couple command hooks on the wall in an out of the way spot. A bell might go in a corner or beside a book shelf.
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Buying Advice
Replies: 22
Views: 1103

Re: Vintage Buying Advice

I like the NY Bach 6 for Dixieland music. You can get those relatively cheap, and they generally play great. 24h also a good choice.
by hyperbolica
Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:26 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Mouthpiece buzzing routines?
Replies: 36
Views: 791

Re: Mouthpiece buzzing routines?

I use buzzing and mouthpiece buzzing for specific things: Free buzzing increases strength and greatly adds to high range. I only use it a couple of minutes at a time, and mostly when I need to play, but can't (in the car on a way to a gig). It wears you out quickly. Sometimes I use another instrumen...
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: What mute is this?
Replies: 4
Views: 360

Re: What mute is this?

Looks like a Kangol softone with custom cutouts.
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bass trombone mouthpiece advice
Replies: 24
Views: 1463

Re: Bass trombone mouthpiece advice

johntarr wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:21 pm
would it be possible to use a 6.5 rim for everything, including the bass?
No. I tried to use a tenor rim with bass, and it doesn't work for what you want a bass for. I tried it with a much larger rim than a 6.5, and it still didn't work.
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: WTB smaller vintage bass bone Conn or Olds
Replies: 8
Views: 440

Re: WTB smaller vintage bass bone Conn or Olds

I've got a 72h with a custom assembled slide and a S22 with a dependent valve setup, if you're interested.
by hyperbolica
Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Bell Receiver Preservation
Replies: 12
Views: 807

Re: Bell Receiver Preservation

Rubber band, o-ring, get a King or a Rath or a friction fit horn.
by hyperbolica
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily
Replies: 45
Views: 1653

Re: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily

But that's the real danger of doubling - you cut your practice time for each instrument you add. This isn't the case for me. For me, to a certain extent, a trombone is a trombone, rhythm is rhythm, pitch is pitch, tone is tone. Practicing that stuff on one horn makes me better at the others. I'm no...
by hyperbolica
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily
Replies: 45
Views: 1653

Re: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily

I got the one rim thing to work for all my tenors. So 500 - 547 I play all on one rim (different cups and shanks). But the rim that fits my face for tenor isn't big enough for bass. So I use Elliott 104 rims for tenors, and ~ Bach 1 1/4g on bass. I used to have a hard time switching from a 6 1/2al t...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily
Replies: 45
Views: 1653

Re: Dangers of doubling - changing mpc size daily

I don't have any idea how this affects you as a student. All I know is my own experience. By switching often, my range on either isn't as good as it could be if I focused on one. But I do get a greater variety of opportunities. If you're looking for Joe Alessi's job, I'd recommend stop doubling and ...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Best symphony orchestra straight mutes
Replies: 22
Views: 985

Re: Best symphony orchestra straight mutes

When the Humes and Berg aluminum mutes are mentioned, are we talking about the Symphonic (contoured shape) or the Philharmonic (bubble end)? The one I like is this one (I've got the more traditional white and red version). New Stonelined Symphonic aluminum straight mute, In my 88h, it gets a little...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bell diameter
Replies: 6
Views: 485

Re: Bell diameter

This is a discussion that you might want to take to the tuba forum, or at least research it there. Tubas have a wide range of bell dia/flare and taper/dia ratios that definitely have an effect on the sound. There are tubas where the flare is nearly flat, and tubas with a much more truncated flare. A...
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bell diameter
Replies: 6
Views: 485

Re: Bell diameter

I haven't made a big study of it, bit in the few situations where I got to play different bell sizes of similar horns, the difference was centered tone vs more diffuse sound. The smaller bell sounded slightly more compact. Not that those other things you mentioned aren't there, just that I only noti...
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:50 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: The 72H mouthpiece solution
Replies: 8
Views: 494

Re: The 72H mouthpiece solution

UncleTsune wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:14 am
Other options,
Pulling out current remi shank and buy leadpipe from Brassark with morse taper, then you can use any mouthpiece.
Buy Conn 3B from eBay or somewhere. It is similar to 1-1/2G. It may costs around $70.
:good:
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:09 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Sauer screw bell
Replies: 20
Views: 1399

Re: Sauer screw bell

I played one at a conference, and I loved it. I'm an 88h/525 player, and not otherwise a big Shires fan. The screw bell gave some obvious differences, bit it wasn't a negative for playability. The duo bore valve was my favorite. Light and snappy. Don't let the size of the valve fool you. It's a grea...
by hyperbolica
Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn SL2547 for Elkhart 8H and GenII 88H
Replies: 4
Views: 403

Re: Conn SL2547 for Elkhart 8H and GenII 88H

I play a '68 88h with the sl2525 and I love it. I've played GenII 8ht with the same slide, again fantastic. I was less impressed with the heavier bell. It just felt a little dead and heavy in comparison. The sl2525 makes a lively horn even livelier. More nimble, snappier. I think the sl2547 mainly s...
by hyperbolica
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?
Replies: 70
Views: 5310

Re: Vintage Conn Bass Trombones - pictures, specifications, characteristics. Who played them?

Beethoven wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:34 pm
What is the average selling price of a Conn 71H in fair condition?
If you search eBay, 3 sales come up, with the average around $1000, only considering the model number and sale price.
by hyperbolica
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Learning tenor and bass trombone together
Replies: 17
Views: 530

Re: Learning tenor and bass trombone together

Tenor and bass are basically the same instrument to beginners and at the advanced level. Buzz lips, overtone series, slide technique, read music, time, intonation, etc. But to people in the middle the differences are bigger. The range, the air, the additional valve, the weight, the general function ...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Keeping a horn "original"
Replies: 18
Views: 806

Re: Keeping a horn "original"

As for 62Hs with Thayers, I also don't care a whole lot. I have played a world-beater 62H that was totally stock, but I've also played 2 other stock 62s that were not good at all. Not every example of a vintage "halo" instrument is amazing. If modifying it means it gets played, then great. If an El...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Keeping a horn "original"
Replies: 18
Views: 806

Re: Keeping a horn "original"

I had a 3B SS that someone else had screw bell-ed and I sold it on pretty quickly. It was a great playing horn, but SOOOOOOO (front) heavy, even/especially with two counter weights in the back. Silver Sonic are heavy to begin with, and screw bell just amplifies that. The weight is the big thing. Als...
by hyperbolica
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Keeping a horn "original"
Replies: 18
Views: 806

Re: Keeping a horn "original"

If it's going to be a daily player and it isn't unique, then replacing parts with modern equivalents in the line of maintenance is ok. I think a horn being played is more important than a horn in a case in a closet. So functional maintenance and repair is ok. Maybe a valve has to be replaced with so...

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