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by ttf_Tbonedude
Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:37 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: joining the "olds" crowd
Replies: 331
Views: 90254

joining the "olds" crowd

<t>I'm giving serious thought to biting the bullet and joining the crowd. I figure if I want to learn about an Olds horn, this is the thread to ask in. Can anyone vouch for using an L.A. Super on lead bone in a big band?<br/> <br/> I'm looking at a 1940s L.A. Olds Super with tone ring, not too prett...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: More on the Chinese Schiller .547 with Trigger
Replies: 3
Views: 7067

More on the Chinese Schiller .547 with Trigger

<t>I thought I'd share my experience here- I bought a Schiller American Heritage closed-wrap trombone, nickel plated, through Jim Laabs in September 2017.<br/> <br/> It survived a college marching season (including a trip from Ohio to Alabama and back in its supplied soft case under a bus) with only...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: More on the Chinese Schiller .547 with Trigger
Replies: 3
Views: 7067

More on the Chinese Schiller .547 with Trigger

<t>I thought I'd share my experience here- I bought a Schiller American Heritage closed-wrap trombone, nickel plated, through Jim Laabs in September 2017.<br/> <br/> It survived a college marching season (including a trip from Ohio to Alabama and back in its supplied soft case under a bus) with only...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Notices from TTF Members
Topic: Star Wars Throne Room scene with trombone choir?
Replies: 8
Views: 9825

Star Wars Throne Room scene with trombone choir?

That is incredible. What I'm wondering is how you got the soprano trombones to sound so much like trombones instead of trumpets!
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Bohland & Fuchs, King 2B twin?
Replies: 8
Views: 8567

Bohland & Fuchs, King 2B twin?

With a 0.460" bore, it is not a perfect twin of the 2B (0.481/0.491 dual bore), but may have been built with the same jazz-and-commercial purpose in mind.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:31 am
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: King 605F + Tempo bell?
Replies: 1
Views: 6869

King 605F + Tempo bell?

<t>I have an idea to obtain a King 605F (similar to 2B, spec-wise) and swap the yellow brass bell with a nickel-plated bell from a Tempo (curved brace version, which I understand is also similar to a 2B spec-wise). In theory, it would make the 605 harder to overblow, and with its small bore and F-at...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:31 am
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: King 605F + Tempo bell?
Replies: 1
Views: 6869

King 605F + Tempo bell?

<t>I have an idea to obtain a King 605F (similar to 2B, spec-wise) and swap the yellow brass bell with a nickel-plated bell from a Tempo (curved brace version, which I understand is also similar to a 2B spec-wise). In theory, it would make the 605 harder to overblow, and with its small bore and F-at...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Beginners and Returning Trombonists
Topic: Conn 15I Upright Bell Euphonium: Quality of??
Replies: 2
Views: 7131

Conn 15I Upright Bell Euphonium: Quality of??

<t>15I was one of the student-level euphoniums in Conn's lineup. The 14I is exactly the same, but with a forward bell. They're great horns that can take a beating. One thing I seem to notice with Conn euphs is that they don't like playing very loud- a lot of disagreement comes from the horn trying t...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Beginners and Returning Trombonists
Topic: Conn 15I Upright Bell Euphonium: Quality of??
Replies: 2
Views: 7131

Conn 15I Upright Bell Euphonium: Quality of??

<t>15I was one of the student-level euphoniums in Conn's lineup. The 14I is exactly the same, but with a forward bell. They're great horns that can take a beating. One thing I seem to notice with Conn euphs is that they don't like playing very loud- a lot of disagreement comes from the horn trying t...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Water Key Springs
Replies: 1
Views: 6857

Water Key Springs

<t>I have a 1934 Elkhart Cavalier, essentially a Conn 4H. It has a trumpet-style water key. The original spring bit the dust halfway through jazz rehearsal this afternoon. Does anyone have specific recommendations for springs that will fit? I would rather not buy a bunch of different trumpet-style w...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Water Key Springs
Replies: 1
Views: 6857

Water Key Springs

<t>I have a 1934 Elkhart Cavalier, essentially a Conn 4H. It has a trumpet-style water key. The original spring bit the dust halfway through jazz rehearsal this afternoon. Does anyone have specific recommendations for springs that will fit? I would rather not buy a bunch of different trumpet-style w...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: How many horns do you own?
Replies: 157
Views: 52371

How many horns do you own?

<t>I last posted here probably a year or two ago. My collection has expanded. List from newest to oldest:<br/> <br/> 2017 Schiller American Heritage trombone (nickel plated)<br/> 1980s Blessing Marching Trombone (same as Olds O21)<br/> 1978 King 5B trombone<br/> 1950s Italian stencil Bb/F french hor...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: Classified Advertisements
Topic: FS: 1921 Conn 12H trombone—.547 ” bore, TIS, piston-valve F-attachment
Replies: 5
Views: 1389

FS: 1921 Conn 12H trombone—.547 ” bore, TIS, piston-valve F-attachment

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=103471.msg1227252#msg1227252"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=103471.msg1227252#msg1227252]</s>Quote from: Doghouse Dan on Jan 04, 2018, 03:24PM<e>[/url]</e></URL>Which finger operates the piston?<br/> <br/> It appears as if the ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:08 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Matching and Olds mpc to an Olds trombone, or any mpc to any horn?
Replies: 7
Views: 8146

Matching and Olds mpc to an Olds trombone, or any mpc to any horn?

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=103437.msg1224531#msg1224531"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=103437.msg1224531#msg1224531]</s>Quote from: Brer Cottonmouth on Dec 13, 2017, 04:55PM<e>[/url]</e></URL>Wow, that generated a lot of comment. So I'm assuming that mat...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:03 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Independent Sterling King Duo Gravis Bass Trombone ???
Replies: 27
Views: 4388

Independent Sterling King Duo Gravis Bass Trombone ???

<t>For a short while, the Duo Gravis name was applied to the 7B, which would make sense in this case. Notice that "6B" is nowhere to be found in the bell engraving.<br/> <br/> It could also be custom. The configuration of the tubing where it exits the valve isn't characteristic of Kings from that er...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: Other Musicians and Ensembles
Topic: Bari Sax cadenza...
Replies: 21
Views: 12445

Bari Sax cadenza...

Leo P. used to do gigs with Lucky Chops, a NYC-based band. That's how I learned of him. He's quite an... interesting character, and one hell of a player.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: Classified Advertisements
Topic: WTB: Trombonium bell
Replies: 0
Views: 396

WTB: Trombonium bell

<r>This one's a long shot. I just bought an American Standard Trombonium that doesn't come with a bell.<br/> <br/> I was thinking about hacking a bell flare onto it, but that would make it an upright-bell, which as we all know, is complete garbage for projection. Besides, the person in the dorm abov...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:17 pm
Forum: Classified Advertisements
Topic: BUYING: Silver Trigger Trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 974

BUYING: Silver Trigger Trombone

<t>I'm in the same boat. If you're fond of knockoffs, the Schiller American Heritage Closed-Wrap (based on some Yamaha model) can be bought in nickel plate for about $500 on Ebay from jimlaabs. Quality might not be the same as, say, a silver 4BF, but for the price, I've heard it's not a bad deal.<br...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Reynolds Tromhorn
Replies: 1
Views: 702

Reynolds Tromhorn

<r>Apparently the Tromhorn was Reynolds' answer to the King Trombonium. <br/> I've seen a couple float through Ebay (like this one: <URL url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-F-A-Reynolds-Marching-Trombonium-Tromhorn-Outfit-Ready-To-Play-/162447156685?hash=item25d29ae5cd:g:EiAAAOSwzgBY2Ydb"><s>[url=h...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:39 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Reynolds Tromhorn
Replies: 1
Views: 702

Reynolds Tromhorn

<r>Apparently the Tromhorn was Reynolds' answer to the King Trombonium. <br/> I've seen a couple float through Ebay (like this one: <URL url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-F-A-Reynolds-Marching-Trombonium-Tromhorn-Outfit-Ready-To-Play-/162447156685?hash=item25d29ae5cd:g:EiAAAOSwzgBY2Ydb"><s>[url=h...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: Beginners and Returning Trombonists
Topic: Open wrap? Closed wrap?
Replies: 52
Views: 6861

Open wrap? Closed wrap?

<t>I think the configuration of the valve tubing doesn't make as much of a difference as tubing bore does. Some trombones have valves that are bored larger than the slide, others are bored the same as the slide.<br/> <br/> You can feel this difference if you play a King 5B and a Benge 190 side-by-si...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Classified Advertisements
Topic: FT: Lacquered Horn for Silver-plated Horn
Replies: 0
Views: 360

FT: Lacquered Horn for Silver-plated Horn

<t>I was lent a King 2104SP (straight silver 4B) to play in college marching band. I like it so much, I want to trade my King 5B for a horn similar to the one I march. Don't get me wrong, I love my 5B, but the 4B's got me hooked. If I had the money I'd buy the horn I'm seeking and keep my 5B, but as...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:13 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conical Design
Replies: 54
Views: 5746

Conical Design

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208069#msg1208069"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208069#msg1208069]</s>Quote from: davdud101 on Aug 15, 2017, 10:44AM<e>[/url]</e></URL>If I may offer a free alternative with a REALLY small learning curve ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conical Design
Replies: 54
Views: 5746

Conical Design

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208056#msg1208056"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208056#msg1208056]</s>Quote from: Euphanasia on Aug 15, 2017, 08:48AM<e>[/url]</e></URL>Then is the bottom leg floating? It looks like a traditional slide h...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:41 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conical Design
Replies: 54
Views: 5746

Conical Design

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208048#msg1208048"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=101590.msg1208048#msg1208048]</s>Quote from: Euphanasia on Aug 15, 2017, 07:37AM<e>[/url]</e></URL>I think it's important to look at complex designs like the Couturier...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:10 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conical Design
Replies: 54
Views: 5746

Conical Design

<r>I meddled around in Sketchup for a bit and this popped out.<br/> This instrument, I believe, is the topic of the discussion. An almost entirely conical slide horn, with exception of a couple steps in the bore.<br/> <br/> <URL url="http://hostthenpost.org"><s>[url=http://hostthenpost.org]</s><IMG ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:38 am
Forum: Found on the Net
Topic: "The Herod Special"
Replies: 1
Views: 7051

"The Herod Special"

<r>I have no words. I don't even know what this is. I know that it was, at some point, a tenor trombone. What it is now? Nobody knows.<br/> <br/> <URL url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/jw-york-and-sons-vintage-silver-trombone-1908-grand-rapids-mich-/292199558795"><s>[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/jw-york-a...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:38 am
Forum: Found on the Net
Topic: "The Herod Special"
Replies: 1
Views: 7051

"The Herod Special"

<r>I have no words. I don't even know what this is. I know that it was, at some point, a tenor trombone. What it is now? Nobody knows.<br/> <br/> <URL url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/jw-york-and-sons-vintage-silver-trombone-1908-grand-rapids-mich-/292199558795"><s>[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/jw-york-a...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:20 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Who in their right mind plays a single valve bass?
Replies: 145
Views: 12980

Who in their right mind plays a single valve bass?

<t>I have a newer-style King 5B I use for pretty much everything. The 5B is a good fit for me as a large tenor, but it's lacking as a bass. I used to play it all the time as a bass, but as my needs grow, the horn struggles to fill them. I'm writing my own quartets and stuff for my youtube channel, a...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:11 am
Forum: Beginners and Returning Trombonists
Topic: High register: euphonium v. bass trombone
Replies: 5
Views: 1085

High register: euphonium v. bass trombone

<t>I've noticed the same thing. <br/> <br/> The Euphonium, being a conical bore instrument, does tend to have more resistance which can help some folks with their high range. I've found that certain notes in the high range seem to slot better on a euph, which aids in their production. The only downf...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:41 am
Forum: Classified Advertisements
Topic: FS/WTT Blessing Artist Marching Trombone *BEATER*
Replies: 0
Views: 264

FS/WTT Blessing Artist Marching Trombone *BEATER*

<t>I hear this horn crying at night, hoping for a new owner who can give it the love and care it deserves. That new owner could be you! I had planned to fix this up, but finances told me to fuhgeddaboudit.<br/> <br/> Repairs that need done:<br/> Removal of dents ("dents" including some seriously war...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:08 pm
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Holton Monster valve
Replies: 19
Views: 2755

Holton Monster valve

I've never heard of the "Monster Valve." I searched and found very little info about it. I guess your discoveries will enlighten me!
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:08 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: If you could have only 3 horns...
Replies: 229
Views: 30460

If you could have only 3 horns...

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=27922.msg1202931#msg1202931"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=27922.msg1202931#msg1202931]</s>Quote from: Euphanasia on Jul 11, 2017, 08:19AM<e>[/url]</e></URL>Wouldn't you also need a hand of your own design to play it? <br/> <br...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:59 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Should Wessex make a new Trombonium?
Replies: 31
Views: 4276

Should Wessex make a new Trombonium?

A trombonium would be a neat thing to have, but it doesn't really have many uses outside of maybe jazz, small ensembles, or solo work. Even then... there's a reason why King and Conn discontinued their tromboniums.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: If you could have only 3 horns...
Replies: 229
Views: 30460

If you could have only 3 horns...

<r>If I could only have 3? I already have more than 3!<br/> In all seriousness:<br/> <br/> 1: Olds Recording with F-attachment, with both the typical dual-bore slide and a medium-bore valve section.<br/> <br/> 2: King "5-and-a-half B" frankenbone- Dual bore 0.547/0.562 nickel slide and modified Duo ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon May 29, 2017 5:12 am
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Tales of The BoreScope ------ The Continuing Saga
Replies: 22
Views: 2323

Tales of The BoreScope ------ The Continuing Saga

Wow, that borescope really seems to come in handy. I'm tempted to buy one, because my Conn euph has quite a few places in the range where the "center" is really loose. Could be because it's leaking somewhere. I guess the borescope could be used for finding leaks, too.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Sat May 27, 2017 7:59 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve bass trombone?
Replies: 9
Views: 1635

Valve bass trombone?

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=100218.msg1195692#msg1195692"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=100218.msg1195692#msg1195692]</s>Quote from: BGuttman on May 26, 2017, 05:37PM<e>[/url]</e></URL>There's a guy on Ebay from Germany that has 4 rotor F Bass trombones f...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu May 18, 2017 6:59 pm
Forum: Beginners and Returning Trombonists
Topic: Rebirth as valve trombonist?
Replies: 14
Views: 1899

Rebirth as valve trombonist?

<t>Don't forget that valve trombones come in many shapes and sizes- right now there's a Conn 90G upright valve bone for sale here on the forum. I've heard those play really well. King also made an upright they called the Trombonium. Those tend to have really odd intonation problems, but are otherwis...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Fri May 12, 2017 3:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Horst Voigt Bb/F Bass trombone 1982
Replies: 5
Views: 1582

Horst Voigt Bb/F Bass trombone 1982

<t>There's not too many chances that anyone gets to buy an instrument like that. I'm sure there's a use for it somewhere. I have a Crown Eb Mellophonium that I thought I'd never play at all (I thought an alto horn mouthpiece would fit, but it takes cornet shank), but I found a good mouthpiece and I ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Fri May 05, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: The Healthy Trombonsit
Topic: Maybe Take up the Euphonium or Baritone Horn?
Replies: 16
Views: 11115

Maybe Take up the Euphonium or Baritone Horn?

<t>Some euphoniums have rings for attaching a strap. Most I've seen, however, do not. Euphonium in general will have you bending your arm less, like you want. A front-valve horn will bend your arm more than a top-valve horn- a front-valve horn is held up with both arms, the left hand grasping somewh...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu May 04, 2017 2:43 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Small bore horns: light or heavy. Which do you prefer?
Replies: 28
Views: 3507

Small bore horns: light or heavy. Which do you prefer?

I prefer a heavier horn overall. A nice, heavy bell so the tone doesn't get nasty too quick (but can be pushed if desired) and a heavy slide so the inertia carries it somewhat. My school has a 3BF with a nickel slide that I really like.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:53 pm
Forum: Musical Miscellany
Topic: "Buffalo Breath" cadenza-style solo..
Replies: 6
Views: 1104

"Buffalo Breath" cadenza-style solo..

<t>I play 1st trombone in my high school jazz band, so I was lucky enough to receive a transcribed tenor sax part to play as a small ensemble feature alongside a tenor sax and two trumpets on the tune "Buffalo Breath." I was fooling around a bit one rehearsal, and long story short, the director stuc...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:57 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Development of an Ergonomic Euphonium
Replies: 43
Views: 5239

Development of an Ergonomic Euphonium

<r><URL url="http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99570.msg1191047#msg1191047"><s>[url=http://tromboneforum.org/index.php?topic=99570.msg1191047#msg1191047]</s>Quote from: Radar on Apr 25, 2017, 12:13PM<e>[/url]</e></URL>The write up didn't specifically say this was compensated, it sort of looks...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:42 am
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: How many dents do you tolerate in your horns?
Replies: 21
Views: 2775

How many dents do you tolerate in your horns?

<t>I don't usually mind a few dings here and there, especially on a horn with some lacquer missing. If it has perfect lacquer, or no lacquer and it's polished, then dings are less frequent so the finish stays consistent. Only if the dings inhibit the playing of the instrument- like when I lost my sl...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:04 am
Forum: Found on the Net
Topic: Ebay: One-Of-A-Kind Trombonium
Replies: 5
Views: 1021

Ebay: One-Of-A-Kind Trombonium

<r>Here's a very special 2nd Generation King Trombonium. According to the seller, this was a one-off prototype of a 4-valve Trombonium. The 4th valve is operated by the left thumb via a trigger. The valve itself is from a Duo Gravis bass trombone. It looks like it might have DG parts past the valve ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Disco Inferno
Replies: 5
Views: 1021

Disco Inferno

<t>I would just use the 88H.The "perfect" horn in this case would be a 3BF or maybe a Conn 52H, neither of which you own.<br/> <br/> As for changing mouthpieces... you can, but it's risky. If you're not fully familiar and prepared for what changes occur in a horn when the piece is changed, it can ma...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Mouthpiece poll for the 1 1/2 size players...
Replies: 4
Views: 8104

Mouthpiece poll for the 1 1/2 size players...

I play on a Benge 1 1/2G when something calls for a lot of low/trigger/pedal range.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:54 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Side Instruments
Replies: 25
Views: 13066

Side Instruments

I play Eb horn (concert mellophone) for fun. I play tuba/sousaphone once in a blue moon, and I play euphonium every week in a community band. I can play piano, but nowhere near proficiently.
by ttf_Tbonedude
Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:28 pm
Forum: Repairs, Modifications, and Maintenance
Topic: Water coming out of bell?
Replies: 15
Views: 2704

Water coming out of bell?

<t>Like others have stated, it's just your warm, humid breath condensing in the bell. If you are able to use warm enough air, and it's cold enough, you get a strange phenomenon- the carbon dioxide in your breath will condense into a vapor cloud. It looks pretty freaky, it happened to me a few times ...
by ttf_Tbonedude
Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:44 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Bass Trombone - Single bore or Dual bore slide
Replies: 26
Views: 14610

Bass Trombone - Single bore or Dual bore slide

I use a King 5B as a bass for the few situations I'm called upon to do that. It's single bore 0.547"

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