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by timothy42b
Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Teele book question
Replies: 38
Views: 758

Re: Teele book question

I calculate at 60 bpm, two sets on each note and 3 min breaks between sets, one Day 2 session would take about 2 hrs and 20 min. Says the great man, “This is a lifetime routine.” It can certainly feel that way. So you count? Somehow in my brain you played each note until breath ran out, 20 times fo...
by timothy42b
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Tongue Controlled Embochure
Replies: 44
Views: 941

Re: Tongue Controlled Embochure

I have wondered if "tonguing through the teeth" is actually dorsal or Clark tonguing (or K-tongue) for many people. They can feel the tip of their tongue on the teeth, but their articulation is actually done somewhere back on the tongue, near the bump at the back of the upper surface, and that cause...
by timothy42b
Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Is there anything worse than "Christian Rock?"
Replies: 49
Views: 3588

Re: Is there anything worse than "Christian Rock?"

I am and have been primarily a guitarist. And in the last twenty years or so (I can't keep track of years anymore) a good portion of the kids I have given guitar lessons to in my community were motivated to do so by the opportunity to play in a band, an opportunity that presented itself because the...
by timothy42b
Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:44 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Compress Octaves?
Replies: 30
Views: 1600

Re: Compress Octaves?

Yes. Denis Wick designed his signature mouthpiece and got into mouthpiece design by filling in the cup of a 4G and making it shallower, with something like nail polish. Once it was perfect, they replicated it in brass. That's cool. You know, I think the vibrating column doesn't much care about the ...
by timothy42b
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Compress Octaves?
Replies: 30
Views: 1600

Re: Compress Octaves?

When people experiment with mouthpieces, do they also ADD structure? I tried, many years ago. I was trying to build a mouthpiece with a shallower cup to experiment with on a homemade PVC alto. I blocked the throat and dripped wax into the cup, and shaved it little by little with a warm table knife....
by timothy42b
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:04 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Killer pedal tonex
Replies: 30
Views: 1037

Re: Killer pedal tonex

Kind of weird, I've been playing the mini pBone mostly for about a month, never could get a pedal tone, until this weekend they started speaking pretty clearly. They stay in tune if I keep the jaw up and the setting in the range above, like burgerbob said. Drop the jaw and they're easier but very fl...
by timothy42b
Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:57 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Trombone Nightmares
Replies: 7
Views: 682

Re: Trombone Nightmares

What's going on in your life? Some major event coming, something causing anxiety? (don't necessarily share it here, but it sounds like either you've got a bit of fear of succeeding at something, or you're setting up an excuse not to do something, or you fear you've damaged a relationship, etc) An oc...
by timothy42b
Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:52 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Bigger becomes easier?
Replies: 9
Views: 1200

Re: Bigger becomes easier?

I took a lesson with Doug, and he told me my embouchure would benefit from a larger mouthpiece. We tried the 104 and it made no difference so I deferred changing. After a couple more lessons and with a better understanding of how I should be playing, I moved to a larger mouthpiece and it did indeed ...
by timothy42b
Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: ATW 2020
Replies: 3
Views: 536

Re: ATW 2020

Slide positions on an alto are shorter than on a tenor (just like the distance between 1 and 2 is shorter than between 6 and 7, and why F attachment positions are longer), so an alto doesn't need to be out of proportion to have 7 position. Yes. My eyes fooled me into thinking the proportions are mu...
by timothy42b
Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

I'm not following why the alto would have fewer positions. Wouldn't everything be proportional, meaning it still has 7 positions? Yeah, I might have had brain cramp on this one. Huh. Doing some rough measurements, my mini pBone has a slide that is 61% of the horn, and my Getzen straight tenor has a...
by timothy42b
Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

Burgerbob wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:49 pm
I'm not following why the alto would have fewer positions. Wouldn't everything be proportional, meaning it still has 7 positions?
Yeah, I might have had brain cramp on this one.
by timothy42b
Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher and ideal alto

That sounds like a good idea, and cheaper than starting them on alto. John Kenny did a lecture on starting kids on alto sometime back, and I see he's going to be at ATW again. Can you swap the linkage so it's in C by default? Or, what about a longer crook, to put the horn in A, giving you the minor...
by timothy42b
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:47 am
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: ATW 2020
Replies: 3
Views: 536

Re: ATW 2020

Equipment: I played the Butler .500 trombone. Light as a feather, slick slide, really well made. No way to judge tone in a room that loud. I played all the altos (see my thread on hand pain.) They're all nose heavy. (I realized later why - they're a 3/4 size horn, so the slide should have .75 as 7 p...
by timothy42b
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:21 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Fixing loose slide lock
Replies: 14
Views: 782

Re: Fixing loose slide lock

bigbandbone wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:55 am
Great idea!
How much grunt did it take to actually shrink the ring? Did you have to add a breaker bar to the chuck key for more leverage?
Pretty sure I saw him buying one of these:

https://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-Com ... 64874.html
by timothy42b
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:05 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: learned something new you all probably know notation
Replies: 4
Views: 562

learned something new you all probably know notation

Singing with a choir last night I learned that in English notation a regular eighth rest is an eighth rest, but if you write it backwards (flag to the right) it becomes a quarter rest. Or, I guess, actually a crotchet rest. I don't remember ever seeing that before. It was obvious from the context wh...
by timothy42b
Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Practice/Warm-up mutes
Replies: 14
Views: 1058

Re: Practice/Warm-up mutes

The Okra mute has the continuous foam ring around the top, and I have never really had luck with mutes that have that element. This is why I altered the Wallace I had at one point. I had it replaced with 3 pieces of cork. In my opinion only: The continuous ring is needed for sealing but it isn't op...
by timothy42b
Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:30 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Saggy Bell Syndrome
Replies: 10
Views: 544

Re: Saggy Bell Syndrome

3 is probably easiest, but you missed:
6 assemble it left handed. Problem solved. It will actually point up slightly and project better.

I won't guarantee this solution won't generate an additional problem, but that would have to be addressed in another thread.
by timothy42b
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: improve my speed in Reading
Replies: 13
Views: 1037

Re: improve my speed in Reading

The good readers do not read note by note on the fly. They retrieve prememorized fragments from the memory banks. So while sightreading is improved somewhat by doing a lot of it, it is much more important to find the elements you struggle with, learn and polish them thoroughly. These elements are of...
by timothy42b
Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Just For Copper Glue
Replies: 2
Views: 364

Re: Just For Copper Glue

I would say no. Plumbing joints are mechanically secure before soldering. Your thumb rest or water key is not, and it gets a fair amount of stress.

FWIW, the tensile strength of solder runs 4,000 or so psi, as does JBWeld. Your copper glue is only listed at 1,000.
by timothy42b
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:42 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

Whoops, just looked at Dillon. The 350C is $2,000, and they have altos in that range also, so really not that much better. That sounds expensive for a student trombone. The 354 is $1400 though.
by timothy42b
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

The handslide is short on the 350C. It's a proportional C trombone, but by default the Bb valve is engaged. Lots of kids here in Japan use them. Don't forget that it is only a whole step valve, which doesn't affect the sound like a longer quart valve would. That sounds like a good idea, and cheaper...
by timothy42b
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

Unlike other brass instruments, we can fine tune every note so I generally shy away from playing higher partial F attachment notes because we don't need to For most of those higher partial F attachment notes there isn't an advantage. They're too close in position to Bb partial notes. And that's the...
by timothy42b
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:10 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Trigger notes higher

In general, the longer the instrument, the more hard it can be to get the pitch to center. The farther out on a trombone slide you are, the more "squirrelly" the notes get up high, even more so on the F-attachment. I'm not sure that's the case. It may be those pitches are squirrelly merely because ...
by timothy42b
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:12 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Trigger notes higher
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Trigger notes higher

I saw an interesting comment on Facebook. It was in reference to starting short armed people on the Yamaha 350C, which has an ascending valve to C. So you would never need to go past 5th. The comment was that the trigger notes on the C horn side sound fine up high, unlike trigger notes on the F side...
by timothy42b
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2115

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

King rotors from what i understand are the bore size of the slide. So a 3Bf rotor section should be .508. At least thats my understanding. It may be somewhat larger. The "f-attachment the same bore as the slide" philosophy seems to have come from George McCracken. BP Leonard who was a member of the...
by timothy42b
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:06 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Is there anything worse than "Christian Rock?"
Replies: 49
Views: 3588

Re: Is there anything worse than "Christian Rock?"

I was leaned on to direct a praise and worship band sometime back. Not my thing, but they needed it done, and I was available. I spent a huge amount of effort trying to find the better music in that genre. We had subscriptions to CCLI, maybe some others I've forgotten. Most of that music is really r...
by timothy42b
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: 3D Printers
Replies: 7
Views: 491

Re: 3D Printers

You can generally upload your design to a 3D printing work pool and have someone who is already set up and has a review profile print and ship your design for much less than buying your own machine. Yes. And you can get more exotic materials that way. There are lots of commercial 3D firms in the ph...
by timothy42b
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: iPad versions
Replies: 26
Views: 1482

Re: iPad versions

My work iPad was issued with an Otterbox. It looks fairly rugged, but I have been careful not to drop it anyway.
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: 3D Printers
Replies: 7
Views: 491

3D Printers

This thought was triggered by a thread on TubeNet (3D Printed Serpent) and by the recent Ergobone redesign thread here.

3D printer costs have come way down, practically to the price of a lesson or mouthpiece.

It's probably time to dip my toe in. Any recommendations? Things to be wary of?
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Ergobone redesign
Replies: 12
Views: 1161

Re: Ergobone redesign

Starting a new thread.
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:13 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Ergobone redesign
Replies: 12
Views: 1161

Re: Ergobone redesign

With a minor modification, this looks like it would work with Ken's cantilever support design. I built one of those, but the attachment to the horn was problematic. The only solution I came up with was a conduit clamp, and while it worked it was a pain to put on and off, and wouldn't fit in the case...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Turning a wooden mouthpiece
Replies: 12
Views: 802

Re: Turning a wooden mouthpiece

There's a thread over on TubeNet about a 3D printed serpent. The craftsman used a $200 Ender 3 3D printer and got great results. That's probably a better way to go unless your lathe is already numerical control. Once you have the CAD file input, you can tweak parameters and adjust your mouthpiece ea...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: Chromebook for digital sheet music?
Replies: 15
Views: 764

Re: Chromebook for digital sheet music?

I've done a bit of research. Many of the chromebooks open all the way back, so they're essentially a tablet, and some people are using them for music. One of the websites says they will work but the screen resolution on an actual tablet is significantly better, so if you can afford the iPad Pro 12.9...
by timothy42b
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Mouthpiece change - splitting notes!
Replies: 15
Views: 956

Re: Mouthpiece change - splitting notes!

That's where I get a double buzz/splitting notes, if I've been playing in the low range for a while and I've let my mouthpiece slide down on my chops. Doug spotted that last time I had a lesson (thanks.) I'd been struggling a bit wondering why sometimes I could play those notes well and sometimes not.
by timothy42b
Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Turning a wooden mouthpiece
Replies: 12
Views: 802

Re: Turning a wooden mouthpiece

You might be better off using a brass tubing shank and just turning the bowl.

If you're really going to use it, you could probably do like clarinet makers do: they use wood, but it is made from sawdust, held together with resin and compressed. So it's more stable and has no grain to worry about.
by timothy42b
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Something I didn't know about rotary valves
Replies: 7
Views: 749

Re: Something I didn't know about rotary valves

Yes, the outer bearing.

All three are like that.

I'm guessing they didn't have the precision to do an interference fit like on a trombone, and set up this tapered bearing seat instead. I should post some photos of some of the crude fit and finish on this thing.
by timothy42b
Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Something I didn't know about rotary valves
Replies: 7
Views: 749

Something I didn't know about rotary valves

I have an old and crudely made Russian rotary valve trumpet. It's more of a wall hanger than a player. For no particularly good reason I decided to lube linkages and slides last night. These valves have a lot of pivots in the linkages. Probably 6 each. If I tapped out the valves like on the trombone...
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!
Replies: 40
Views: 2564

Re: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!

harrisonreed wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:24 am
. I got handed a chart the other day with Ds and Ebs everywhere.
One of our local bass trombone players told me his answer to that. "Take it down an octave and leave it out."
by timothy42b
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:21 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: New mute corks
Replies: 11
Views: 630

Re: New mute corks

After you glue them on a rasp will do a nice job of shaping the cork. I used a concrete sidewalk once when I didn't have a rasp. But a 4 way rasp is a very useful and inexpensive tool. It has coarse and fine, rounded and flat rasps in one piece. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nicholson-8-in-4-in-1-Han...
by timothy42b
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!
Replies: 40
Views: 2564

Re: ARGHH! Tenor Clef!

But I see in the jazz and commercial context more and more tenor clef, where it just does not belong. It's a shibboleth. I would rather just see concert pitch treble clef. I cannot play above the top line F anyway, so ledger lines go away. Actually for trombones using the great staff would make led...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:25 am
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Band Member with B.O. Problem
Replies: 14
Views: 1093

Re: Band Member with B.O. Problem

My coworkers at the hospital talked a lot about one annoying employee who smelled. It was common knowledge but he wasn't on my regular wards and I hadn't worked with him. Then one night we were assigned together. I saw his name on the roster and thought, uh oh. But then I met him and there was no od...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Old guy rant
Replies: 101
Views: 4524

Re: Old guy rant

I have two thoughts on this one. 1. When you set the rehearsal time, it appears you did not ensure he got the message. Emails go astray, we fatfinger the address or autocorrect sends it wrong or it just disappears into the ether. Whatever method we use, you have to confirm they really got it. One of...
by timothy42b
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: iPad versions
Replies: 26
Views: 1482

Re: iPad versions

I either memorize the music or bring an iPad clip for my mic stand. You're lucky, I guess. <smiley> At my age, the ability to memorize disappeared at the same time as vision. I have the Kindle 8 and the 12.9 iPad. the iPad works for music, the Kindle is too small. (The iPad is work issue and I can'...
by timothy42b
Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:09 am
Forum: Accessories
Topic: Ipad stand
Replies: 15
Views: 767

Re: Ipad stand

For those of you using an ipad or other tablet to read music, what do you use to hold it up if you are not using a regular music stand? There are a bunch of them on Amazon for $25 or $30, IPads for $25? or music stands? I'm thinking of going tablet too. I'm not sure how big I need. I have the Kindl...
by timothy42b
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece characteristics that affect partials
Replies: 14
Views: 1422

Re: Mouthpiece characteristics that affect partials

Strangely it's an aspect of mouthpiece design and fitting that I heard a lot about from makers of historical instruments/mouthpieces and that I had never ever heard about when dealing with modern instruments. Perhaps it's because tuning the partials by getting a correct mouthpiece-instrument fit is...
by timothy42b
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Mouthpiece buzzing routines?
Replies: 42
Views: 2311

Re: Mouthpiece buzzing routines?

There is no way buzzing on a three inch long tube with artificial resistance is related to moving air through an 8 foot tube with actual resistance from the air vibrating inside it. There is resistance to air flowing through a duct, and that may not relate to the perceived resistance of a sound wav...
by timothy42b
Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Error in Arban
Replies: 6
Views: 552

Re: Error in Arban

Yeah, I always LOLed when I played exercises in there with a key signature that contained a double flat. Um, I think not. I always assumed it was a transposition error from trumpet. Probably so, although I have occasionally run into the double flat in music the local European wind ensemble played. ...
by timothy42b
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Error in Arban
Replies: 6
Views: 552

Re: Error in Arban

To get nit picky, Arian was written for cornet

Conservatory students already played trumpet, they needed to learn valves.
by timothy42b
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: holding a valve trombone
Replies: 4
Views: 441

holding a valve trombone

I never play mine because I can't figure out how to hold it.

Then I saw this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7l1nmZnjw4

and I thought he looked pretty relaxed.

Then I got to thinking: young fit kid, yet he keeps switching grips. Maybe he has the same trouble I do.
by timothy42b
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Anti-depressant properties of being a brass player
Replies: 13
Views: 1174

Re: Anti-depressant properties of being a brass player

Then on the other hand, listening to a recording of yourself could CAUSE depression!

Probably best never to record, just spread your efforts to everybody nearby.

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