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by castrubone
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:14 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 2535

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

chromebone wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:09 am
I'm basing it on the fact that Abiline production Conns had yellow brass handslides. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
Wow, thanks for clarifying. Goodbye TromboneChat. I won't miss this.
by castrubone
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 2535

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

The 88H does not and has not ever had yellow brass handslides All 88h’s had yellow brass handslides starting with the N series, around the time they moved to Abiline. They continued with yellow brass throughout the ‘70’s until the UMI takeover. When production was moved to Eastlake, they started us...
by castrubone
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 2535

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

harrisonreed wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:34 pm
Even the SGX is a rose brass (they don't call it gold brass) slide.
The SGX is silver plated with gold plate trim.
by castrubone
Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 2535

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

I used to do this work for the Shires company. I would suggest a 7GM or 7GLW bell. The X tuning slide is not a bad idea, but has to be considered as part of the whole package. I've seen Gen II 88Hs with gold brass and yellow brass slide tubes. Which is your preference? Depending on the answer to th...
by castrubone
Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:36 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO
Replies: 63
Views: 2535

Re: Shires equivalent to Gen 2 Conn 88 HO

Nothing I've ever tried by Shires plays even remotely close to an 88HO (or a vintage 88H for that matter). The Vintage Elkhart in particular is 100% nothing like any Conn I've ever played. Shires play like Shires. Buy a Conn and be happy (oh and save yourself a lot of money).
by castrubone
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:57 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
Topic: Found: Hammond 11ml large shank
Replies: 1
Views: 140

Re: WTB: Hammond 11ml large shank

PM sent
by castrubone
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires q series.
Replies: 19
Views: 1149

Re: Shires q series.

Unless something is mechanically wrong with your valve, I would stay put with the 42. It's not a sexy valve but it does what it needs to do. If you have any inkling of getting another horn in the next few years then save your money until then.
by castrubone
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Shires q series.
Replies: 19
Views: 1149

Re: Shires q series.

What's wrong with the valve?
by castrubone
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Musicians Union
Replies: 10
Views: 2320

Re: Musicians Union

Bonehead wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:28 am
My view of the musicians union right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
They're lobbying lawmakers to provide economic relief for out of work musicians. It's a tough situation, but they're doing the best they can. Better to support their efforts than take shots at them.
by castrubone
Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Music Business
Topic: Shires Trombones Today ?
Replies: 14
Views: 3076

Re: Shires Trombones Today ?

When I visited the factory I was told that even some of the small parts used on the custom line are made in China now. Possibly the crooks for handslides and maybe tuning slides, can't remember exactly what they said. The Q series is certainly similar in price to Bach 42s, Xenos, Getzen's and 88H's ...
by castrubone
Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Valve Recommendations
Replies: 15
Views: 1176

Re: Valve Recommendations

What type of horn do you have? Standard rotors will get the job done most of the time.
by castrubone
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: Easy 88h thumb paddle replacement?
Replies: 7
Views: 882

Re: Easy 88h thumb paddle replacement?

ChadA wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:48 pm
Here’s what my tech, Gary Dafler, came up with. He fabricated a replacement for the removable Conn paddle. I bought a spalted maple thumb rest from Kyle Peck. Looks much better than the stock Conn part!

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Awesome! Gary is the best.
by castrubone
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Is Shires like an exotic car company?
Replies: 21
Views: 1429

Re: Is Shires like an exotic car company?

Apparently you've never talked to anyone about the harmonic brace on their T396-A. Well, isn't the harmonic brace a huge piece of marketing in itself? I'm sure people use it, but the horn also does just fine without. Preach. Now it's the "Scalloped Harmonic Bridge." https://trombonechat.com/posting...
by castrubone
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Benge 190F Bb/F trombone
Replies: 3
Views: 1089

Re: FS: Benge 190F Bb/F trombone

Is this still available?
by castrubone
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:25 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: need info on my Conn 88HCL
Replies: 7
Views: 669

Re: need info on my Conn 88HCL

Based off of those pictures I wouldn't settle for less than $1500. I've never seen a used Conn 88HCL for less than $1000 in the states, even a beat up one. The market for these horns is usually in the mid thousands. A store would probably sell that horn for $2000. You could maybe find a beat up old ...
by castrubone
Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:26 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Shires 7YLW Bell SOLD
Replies: 8
Views: 799

Re: FS: Shires 7YLW Bell SOLD

Sorry it has sold
by castrubone
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: King 4b vs Conn 88h
Replies: 14
Views: 1406

Re: King 4b vs Conn 88h

I recently tried a new straight King 4B against my 88HT. The 4B was a bigger sound and felt more open. "Bach-like" you could say. The bell seemed fairly thin, but it's bigger than average (8 5/8" i think) so it balances out. Definitely would work in an orchestra no problem. The Conn is more nimble a...
by castrubone
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: In defense of Yamaha
Replies: 70
Views: 7144

Re: In defense of Yamaha

I think most people would agree that Yamaha has a very consistently high build quality, particularly for their price. I do a lot of teaching and I see the 882O and 882OR all the time, not to mention the big name players using them. From my vantage they’re very popular horns amongst younger players. ...
by castrubone
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:17 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts
Replies: 31
Views: 4076

Re: Schiller T-Bones: Give me your thoughts

75% of the horn for 25% of the price. That sounds about right. If you are very lucky you might find a used pro horn and get 75% of the horn for 50% of the price, but with the condition of used brass instruments being so dependent on how they were treated by the first owner, there are 2nd owners get...
by castrubone
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: Media
Topic: Anyone bought the Jay Friedman Masyerclass DVD
Replies: 10
Views: 1287

Re: Anyone bought the Jay Friedman Masyerclass DVD

Yep - I have a copy. Noah Gladstone did a good job producing it with Friedman. It's like a crash course in Friedman's playing/teaching philosophy. Lots of tips and some playing examples by Jay. I highly recommend it for all the trombone nerds out there.
by castrubone
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Friedman
Replies: 11
Views: 1445

Re: Holton Friedman

Let's remember the high talent level of those CSO musicians. They could force their "musical will" on any instrument. I always thought it would be interesting to hear a great trombone section performing on Pbones or instruments bought from a 1960s Sears catalog. Mere mortals like myself need very p...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Friedman
Replies: 11
Views: 1445

Re: Holton Friedman

I’ve noticed a lot of my favorite CSO recordings are from the late 70’s to mid 80’s (the 1989 Shosty 7 is a notable exception), but really anything with Crisafulli is always a treat. He sounded like a bulldozer on second! Could listen to him all day long. Ive always thought of that as the Chicago Ba...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:39 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: NAMM Report 2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2460

Re: NAMM Report 2020

I am finding out more and more that Greg’s mouthpieces work a little different on Edwards. I have my mouthpiece from Greg dialed in for rotors so I can get it to work, but I plug in a GP or something and it is much easier to play. And I can’t get a good sound out of the B454 on my mouthpiece from G...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: NAMM Report 2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2460

Re: NAMM Report 2020

Burgerbob wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 am
They are quite different. Different valves, wrap, and some materials.
Ohh, didn’t know that. That certainly explains the difference in feel. Shires website makes them sound almost identical.
by castrubone
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: NAMM Report 2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2460

Re: NAMM Report 2020

Good stuff Aidan! TromboneChat's field reporter. Do you remember what felt different about the Q Alessi vs. the full custom? They're technically the same specs right?
by castrubone
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Holton Friedman
Replies: 11
Views: 1445

Holton Friedman

Another Jay Friedman thread! Does anybody know when he switched from Holton to Bach?
by castrubone
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:15 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jay Friedman Bach 42 Centennial custom
Replies: 29
Views: 1338

Re: Jay Friedman Bach 42 Centennial custom

WGWTR180 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:00 am
And your mouthpiece is?
Who, me?
by castrubone
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:23 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Jay Friedman Bach 42 Centennial custom
Replies: 29
Views: 1338

Re: Jay Friedman Bach 42 Centennial custom

I tend to push in quite a bit on Bach's, maybe an 1/8" out if I'm remembering correctly, and I play off the bumper a touch as well. If yours needed to be cut to get up to pitch then it's probably an outlier. Also, the Friedman set up usually has a Bach 50 bass slide which might exacerbate the proble...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:41 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 1008

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

As you mentioned in your post, recording. A 42 and 88 are so radically different in so many ways other than the rim that it's not a fair comparison.
by castrubone
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 1008

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

Soldered rims are supposed to add projection/weight to the sound in general That's what you hear behind the bell. Soldered bells really just increase feedback to the player. There's not a big difference out on the hall, unless it's the player compensating for the increased feedback. I hear a big di...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 1008

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

Soldered rims are supposed to add projection/weight to the sound in general
by castrubone
Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 1008

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

Yeah they're all soldered. The LT or T only refers to the weight. Thinner in the style of the old Elkhart bells, but with soldered rim.
by castrubone
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS
Replies: 15
Views: 1008

Re: 8HT VS. 8HLT BELLS

You're right. When the thin bell was first introduced it was called "LT" for a brief time.
by castrubone
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:36 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi
Replies: 13
Views: 889

Re: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi

Ah, that makes sense! That was partially why I asked as it seemed like you were from outside the US. Either way it looks like a beautiful horn. Good luck selling it.
by castrubone
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi
Replies: 13
Views: 889

Re: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi

Because this is supposed to be a community of trombonists. Asking why someone would charge more for a used instrument than a new one is a fair question given the market. Obviously anybody can charge whatever they want for any instrument, but the community has a right to comment and ask questions. Ma...
by castrubone
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi
Replies: 13
Views: 889

Re: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi

Also the instrument your selling is used, not brand new.
by castrubone
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi
Replies: 13
Views: 889

Re: FS: Edwards t396a Joseph Alessi

$5400 USD and it’s used? The old Alessi horn retails for $5150 brand new.
by castrubone
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62HI/Conn62HCL
Replies: 11
Views: 675

Re: Conn 62HI/Conn62HCL

Christian Jones (Philharmonia Orchestra in UK) has a ton of videos on YouTube of standard excerpts. Obviously he's an accomplished and great player, but it's a nice up and close glimpse of what a 62HI can sound like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM056qAPT_4
by castrubone
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Conn 62HI/Conn62HCL
Replies: 11
Views: 675

Re: Conn 62HI/Conn62HCL

I use the 62HI when I occasionally play bass. It's a great horn. It's not too big or woofy like some basses and makes the transition from tenor more manageable. Also, it's one of the more affordable pro-level US made bass trombones on the market. No ergonomic issues for me, but many bass trombonists...
by castrubone
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:45 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Ordering from Greg Black
Replies: 45
Views: 4110

Re: Ordering from Greg Black

I was thinking about ordering a 1 and 1/8 from Greg but given some of the threads here and the TTF over the years, I have a few reservations. If you place an order through his website, are you charged immediately, even if he doesn’t have your mpc in stock and you have to wait months? Yes, it charge...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2744

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

Of course. You can buy parts and widgets for nearly every horn they make (including some Benge things!), and/or did make in the past....theoretically. Again, they'd probably have to make it and it would take a month or two. Unless you get lucky, they generally don't manufacture surplus things like b...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2744

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

Sounds like if you order a 3BF bell section and a 3B+ slide you can still get a brand new 3BF+. Are the slides not compatible? Maybe? It's the same bell, but I don't know if the plus has a different gooseneck/receiver. It's a clever idea. They're not Shires, so I don't know how many spare 3B bells ...
by castrubone
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2744

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

Yes, you can order one (through WWBW or somewhere else) and they will make it for you. Dealers do not stock the 3B+ because King does not make them unless it's specifically requested, hence, it's a "special order."
by castrubone
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2744

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

Right, they'll still make a 3BPL on request but it's usually a "special order." I was thinking of the a 3B+ w/trigger which isn't available at all.
by castrubone
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: 3B+ in a classical setting
Replies: 39
Views: 2744

Re: 3B+ in a classical setting

Kings work just fine in an orchestra. The only issue I see is the 3b+ isn't manufactured anymore so it might be a hard horn to find. They still make the 4B which is very well suited for orchestra, but is a larger .547" bore. Regarding modifying fixed leadpipes/slide crooks - I always advise against ...
by castrubone
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Shires & Conn Leadpipes
Replies: 2
Views: 261

Re: FS: Shires & Conn Leadpipes

Both Shires pipes are sold. 3 Conn's are still available!
by castrubone
Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Shires & Conn Leadpipes
Replies: 2
Views: 261

FS: Shires & Conn Leadpipes

Clearing out some leadpipes! These are all in excellent condition and are either ones I don't use or have duplicates of. Shires - 2.5 sterling silver $85 *SOLD* - 2 sterling silver $85 *SOLD* Conn - M "Marcellus" $50 - S "Standard" 88H gen 2 $50 - D for 62H gen 2 $50 CONUS shipping included, no trad...
by castrubone
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
Topic: FS: Conn SL4747 Slide w/3 leadpipes *SOLD*
Replies: 6
Views: 915

Re: FS: Conn SL4747 Slide w/3 leadpipes

Still available. New price $650 shipped

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