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by Doug Elliott
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:08 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: New guy
Replies: 7
Views: 126

Re: New guy

...opening the mouth to take big breaths is a very important habit to develop early on. No, no, and NO. Opening your mouth to inhale does nothing but destroy your embouchure set. Try to play it just like you play trumpet (except I don't know how you play trumpet...) but use LESS air. If you put the...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:28 pm
Forum: Tangents
Topic: Triad trouble
Replies: 42
Views: 2042

Re: Triad trouble

She's a born leader.
I can't think of any one person who has inspired so much creativity in such a short time.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:15 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Throat Sizing
Replies: 13
Views: 1072

Re: Throat Sizing

Us mouthpiece makers need to keep selling mouthpieces to stay in business, so just keep destroying mouthpieces so we can keep replacing them.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:55 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 86
Views: 5418

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

Yeah, Rita's mother is a really good jazz guitar player.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High E and Eb always hard to get
Replies: 14
Views: 1076

Re: High E and Eb always hard to get

Eb is not in 1st, it's about 1.5 or #2. I think of it as the same #2 as G (and tune it from there as necessary). The E is in real 2nd, and F is #3, so they're all kind of close together.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?
Replies: 86
Views: 5418

Re: Why Do Trombonists Suck At Improvising?

Rita is really great, and some of the videos are of her whole family. Growing up in that environment certainly helps.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:17 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: bass mpc c. 28.5mm rim, very deep cup?
Replies: 17
Views: 1256

Re: bass mpc c. 28.5mm rim, very deep cup?

XB 112, N, N10 is like a 59 rim on a 95D cup.

That should be deep enough but I also make a P cup. And I have made an R.
(I'm not suggesting those.)
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:12 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Trombone and Euphonium chops
Replies: 11
Views: 855

Re: Trombone and Euphonium chops

Contact Wessex, that should be a warranty issue.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Trombone and Euphonium chops
Replies: 11
Views: 855

Re: Trombone and Euphonium chops

That is not typical for euphonium. If anything it should be the opposite. I think it has a leak, or at least a leaky valve.

Or maybe something about it is just a bad design. Leadpipe too small? Mouthpiece not the right choice?
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:14 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

Yes, Dick Nash is amazing. And that video is a clear example of the typical sound of a perfect upstream player... Huge and bright.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:07 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

"She has to move her jaw so far forward that she switches to upstream" I see no evidence of switching to upstream. That's a common misconception. Jaw position is completely unrelated to air direction. There are receded-jaw upstream players and protruding-jaw downstream players. And yes Blair Bolling...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:51 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

Reinhardt's terminology and the way he wrote is a big turnoff to a lot of players... But he did know a tremendous amount more than anybody else about the way chops work. I got lucky, I read his books and then had roughly 100 lessons with him over 10 years. These discussions are great, dispite the fa...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:40 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: Lip Injury (pain when playing)
Replies: 12
Views: 927

Re: Lip Injury (pain when playing)

It really depends entirely on what the cause is. I'm always in favor of fixing actual problems, not just hiding the symptoms.

Let me take a quick look at what you're doing and I'll advise what I think you should do. Skype or Zoom.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:16 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Skype Lessons [Doug Elliot]
Replies: 6
Views: 646

Re: Skype Lessons [Doug Elliot]

Here are some answers: Most of my time is pretty available. Let me know when is convenient for you. Skype and Zoom are fine. It's best to get right on playing correctly so you don't waste time playing wrong. You can progress really fast when you're doing things right. Do not be embarrassed... You do...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

I agree that Reinhardt made some mistakes. But I also think that what a player does (no matter how great they are) is not necessarily indicative of what they should do. Consistency issues, bad days, chop breakdowns, and "dystonia" come from doing things that are inefficient, inconsistent, and someti...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:00 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Quick DE question
Replies: 13
Views: 1857

Re: Quick DE question

Seabass wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:15 am
How about rims and cups? Can a XTK cup fit a MB/LB rim?
The rule is that the series has to be the same for the rim and cup, for two reasons - the threads need to be the same (tenor and bass use different threads) and the inside interface diameter (rim to cup) needs to be the same.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: Lip Injury (pain when playing)
Replies: 12
Views: 927

Re: Lip Injury (pain when playing)

Injuries are generally caused by doing something wrong habitually, that you get away with for a while. Lots of players get really good at playing wrong.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: beginner should not get a pro level horn? Why?
Replies: 19
Views: 1316

Re: beginner should not get a pro level horn? Why?

You can't really go wrong with a 3B. There are "cheap chinese horns" that are awful and others that are fine. The same goes for "pro level horns." I had a 3B when I was 11 or 12. A lot depends on what kind of playing you want to do, but a 3B is a good all around choice that will fit almost anywhere ...
by Doug Elliott
Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:21 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High E and Eb always hard to get
Replies: 14
Views: 1076

Re: High E and Eb always hard to get

Also F is really strong in 3rd.
by Doug Elliott
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: High E and Eb always hard to get
Replies: 14
Views: 1076

Re: High E and Eb always hard to get

I have never liked Eb in 3rd. It's stronger between 1st and 2nd, about where the 3rd ledger line G is.
E is always hard to lock in. Try approaching it from the F.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

ArbanRubank got it right! I knew that Dave would be up for an experiment, so I suggested a week or so of downstream, but being careful to use the Very High (IIIA in Reinhardt terms) placement and motion. That had a good chance of stabilizing his corners in a better place. Dave's corners were too far...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:21 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

MTbassbone wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:46 am
Beans & Rice creates Song & Wind..... :good:
Why didn't I think of that...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:39 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix
Replies: 92
Views: 4332

Re: Spot the Embouchure Issues and Guess the Crazy Fix

Tongue & Blow?
Song & Wind?
Gin & Tonic?
Tomato & Basil?
Salt & Pepper?

Persimmons will make you pucker....
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: What went wrong? King 3B slide seems ruined :-(
Replies: 29
Views: 1380

Re: What went wrong? King 3B slide seems ruined :-(

Freshly drawn tubing needs to be straightened several times over a period of weeks or months because the metal keeps changing and bending back toward it's "memory." Eventually it stays straight but may still continue to bend back in the long run - I have one like that. When you buy a tube you don't ...
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:31 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 70/30 or 50/50
Replies: 39
Views: 4826

Re: 70/30 or 50/50

For now, your freebuzzing needs to be different from the way you play because you need to exaggerate the bottom lip pulling in. That's so you start to develop control over those muscles across the whole "southern hemisphere". You CAN freebuzz in you pull your bottom lip in far enough.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:43 am
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 70/30 or 50/50
Replies: 39
Views: 4826

Re: 70/30 or 50/50

You should not be consciously trying to change your placement. And nobdy said "first focus on what feels right.".

Learn to use your pivot by where it sounds best.
Use the formation we talked about.
Freebuzz the way we talked about.
Apply those things to playing the horn.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:36 am
Forum: Modification & Repair
Topic: What went wrong? King 3B slide seems ruined :-(
Replies: 29
Views: 1380

Re: What went wrong? King 3B slide seems ruined :-(

Run your fingers over the old and new tubes and see if they are equally smooth. If the new one has any roughness to it, maybe it didn't get buffed. You can use Scotch-Bright 7448 Ultrafine pads safely on chrome to smooth it if it's not totally smooth. That's very close to what the factory uses on th...
by Doug Elliott
Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:31 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Increasing lung capacity
Replies: 45
Views: 4054

Re: Increasing lung capacity

If I have not played my .547 for awhile, the first few days I am very inefficient on it. I waste a lot of air, while it may feel and sound normal. It takes some time to find the balance that the horn and chops need. Any time you make an adjustment (or switch embouchure type intentionally) it's going...
by Doug Elliott
Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:08 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: 70/30 or 50/50
Replies: 39
Views: 4826

Re: 70/30 or 50/50

And don't forget, PosauneCat... you're having problems .... a sign that you're doing something wrong.

This is the biggest mistake brass players make. Having playing problems but still assuming that whatever they're doing is correct... Why?
by Doug Elliott
Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:21 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: How much to charge for secondary instrument lessons?
Replies: 3
Views: 368

Re: How much to charge for secondary instrument lessons?

Your time is your time. As long as you are capable to teaching effectively for the level of the student it makes no difference how well you play it.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Hand-Hammered Olds
Replies: 17
Views: 1072

Re: Hand-Hammered Olds

Nice. I've seen pictures of that before.
by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:39 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Such a thing as corners being too firm?
Replies: 9
Views: 633

Re: Such a thing as corners being too firm?

Yes, corners can be too tight. They can also be too loose. Sometimes you need to exaggerate one way or the other to find the correct balance. There's also the question of where that firmness should be vs. where it actually is. Some areas need to be firm and other areas need to be loose. It can take ...
by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Increasing lung capacity
Replies: 45
Views: 4054

Re: Increasing lung capacity

by Doug Elliott
Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:15 am
Forum: Maintenance
Topic: Problem with nickel-silver smell and taste from slide
Replies: 16
Views: 1120

Re: Problem with nickel-silver smell and taste from slide

A dry rag will only burnish the corrosion and not remove it - and possibly make it even harder to remove. To really remove it, a flex-hone would do the job, or you could probably use Scotchbrite on a cleaning rod - the dark red Very Fine grade would be good for that - I use it wet, with dish soap (D...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:49 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Mouthpiece pressure quote...
Replies: 6
Views: 635

Re: Mouthpiece pressure quote...

I wouldn't seal either.
Back when I gave in-person lessons... Whenever that was... One thing I would often do was to hold the student's horn while they play, so I could feel how much pressure they use. Then I'd have the student hold my horn while I play.

Guess the result.
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dennis Wick Mouthpiece Lead Warning
Replies: 17
Views: 1109

Re: Dennis Wick Mouthpiece Lead Warning

Epidemiologist hat on for a moment - a detectable amount (not even a hazardous amount) of lead. There is no recognized safe level of lead exposure. Any detectable amount is considered a hazardous amount. That said, less lead exposure is obviously less harmful than more, and the harm to adults with ...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:18 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Increasing lung capacity
Replies: 45
Views: 4054

Re: Increasing lung capacity

I think the other side of the equation is more important than trying to increase lung capacity: efficiency at the embouchure. An efficient embouchure uses less air. Working on that seems like a better solution than trying to “stretch” your lungs. Work on both, but I think the embouchure efficiency ...
by Doug Elliott
Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Dennis Wick Mouthpiece Lead Warning
Replies: 17
Views: 1109

Re: Dennis Wick Mouthpiece Lead Warning

Nothing has changed. California has had that requirement for years. Brass has always had a small amount of lead in it. Even "lead free" brass has some, just a smaller amount. I think Yamaha has switched to it. I would if it was available, but so far I haven't been able to buy it in the sizes I use. ...
by Doug Elliott
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:50 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mouthpiece Like an Olds 3
Replies: 9
Views: 768

Re: Mouthpiece Like an Olds 3

The rim is flatter than the 6.5AL with a more abrupt bite in the cup. Measuring as well as I can just below the bite with calipers, the cup is about 23.5mm wide. The 6.5AL is a bit under 25mm. Kind of tough freehanding a measurement though. Those measurements are quite a bit off on the small side. ...
by Doug Elliott
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mpc question: Reinhardt and Wedge
Replies: 5
Views: 670

Re: Mpc question: Reinhardt and Wedge

Well I did try it. Somebody (I don't remember who) sent me one in my size to try. It sure didn't do me any favors.
by Doug Elliott
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:14 pm
Forum: Mouthpieces
Topic: Mpc question: Reinhardt and Wedge
Replies: 5
Views: 670

Re: Mpc question: Reinhardt and Wedge

You would be a IIIA... but see that's why I virtually never even tell students what type they are, because nobody remembers anyway and it just gets more confusing. I like LESS confusing. Let's just say I don't agree with Dr Dave's concepts. For some players, I hear them say it "makes them use their ...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:14 pm
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Olds Recording Matching Serial Numbers
Replies: 3
Views: 344

Re: Olds Recording Matching Serial Numbers

I'd have to check but I think mine from the mid-50's has non-matching numbers.
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:01 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: But the Tuner Says....
Replies: 32
Views: 1708

Re: But the Tuner Says....

On my crappy computer speakers I couldn't hear any difference
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Picking up the horn after a very long time
Replies: 5
Views: 478

Re: Picking up the horn after a very long time

I recently took a virtual lesson with Doug Elliott and it was really fascinating. I knew virtually nothing about Reinhardt’s Pivot System, so it was a real learning experience. Doug’s understanding of it, and ability to impart that knowledge, is quite profound. The first thing I’m experimenting wit...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Teaching & Learning
Topic: Just how effective are online lessons
Replies: 11
Views: 743

Re: Just how effective are online lessons

I have taught lots of lessons online, both working on chops and musical coaching/audition prep lessons. Maybe I'm just used to low fidelity sound, but as long as the internet connection is reasonably good I have no trouble hearing subtleties necessary to teach effectively. Originally I was very skep...
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:01 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: But the Tuner Says....
Replies: 32
Views: 1708

Re: But the Tuner Says....

The last file needs permission
by Doug Elliott
Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:31 am
Forum: Instruments
Topic: Talk to me about Bach 36 horns
Replies: 52
Views: 5671

Re: Talk to me about Bach 36 horns

It definitely sounds like you could use a little direction in what you're doing. I can clear up whatever you're doing in a short Skype or Zoom session. PM or email me.
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:00 pm
Forum: Performance
Topic: But the Tuner Says....
Replies: 32
Views: 1708

Re: But the Tuner Says....

Exactly
by Doug Elliott
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:32 am
Forum: Performance
Topic: But the Tuner Says....
Replies: 32
Views: 1708

Re: But the Tuner Says....

OK, I didn't look at the actual study but that all makes perfect sense in terms of perceived pitch. And the spread of opinions. Slightly different but related subject: What I want to see studied is the perceived pitch differences between right and left ears. I'm quite sure there is often a differenc...

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