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- Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:37 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: New guy
- Replies: 7
- Views: 96
Re: New guy
First about the valves. It's possible that the pads and felts are old and compressed. The valves are similar in size to an "American Baritone". I believe there are some sellers of pad and felt kits on Ebay, although I've never bothered on my horns. Treating the valves is probably similar to what you...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:32 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: New guy
- Replies: 7
- Views: 96
Re: New guy
Hi and welcome! We have a number of folks here who play valved instruments as well as slides (including me). Note that a Flugaone (or Baritone or Trombone) takes a lot more air than a trumpet. But you may be putting too much air through the thing. That may be why the 12C mouthpiece sounds shrill. As...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:53 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
I don't use ham radio terms here. Maybe if she was using a Single Side Band it might have sounded better? 

- Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:59 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Valve trombone measurements PLEASE!
- Replies: 4
- Views: 158
Re: Valve trombone measurements PLEASE!
Note that King 2B and 3B valve sections fit on their respective bells so you can use them as slide or valve trombones.
I believe the Conn 5G and 6H have a similar relationship.
I believe the Conn 5G and 6H have a similar relationship.
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:57 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
Lots of other better choices ... Some good songs of more recent vintage as well. "Born in the USA" ? Yeah. Or "Proud to be an American" There's also our take on the English anthem, "My Country 'Tis of Thee". At the time of the Revolution "Yankee Doodle" was a popular patriotic song. Unfortunately i...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:50 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
The tune is a drinking song. The lyrics are a poem by Francis Scott Key called "The Siege of Fort McHenry". I don't even know if Key was considering the drinking song as he wrote. Note: want warlike? Look at La Marseillaise. At the time of the adoption of SSB as the National Anthem, there was a stro...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:13 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
There have been many excellent renditions of SSB in the past. Many of them were by opera singers, who usually have the range to carry it out.
Lady Gaga's version, while a bit odd, was enjoyable to listen to.
This rendition was not in the same ballpark.
- Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:45 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
Simultaneously!robcat2075 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:41 pm...
Ms. Sailor "I can sing in four keys" Sabol performs at 26:30
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- Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:12 pm
- Forum: (Classifieds) Instruments & Parts
- Topic: Selling everything
- Replies: 28
- Views: 3577
Re: Selling everything
I sent him a welcoming and polite PM (not an e-mail) on February 19. He still has not retrieved this message. (Nor posted anything more.) Apparently he has responded to some e-mails but not to others. I still would like to know what he's selling, but apparently he's not interested in listing items ...
- Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:23 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
And I lost power for 7 hours last night. Maybe Ted Cruz will go back to Cancun? :evil: Did you have a backup heat provision already? What was that? The best one: the dog! :cool: Actually, we have a wood stove, although we haven't needed to fire it up for quite a while. That's New England. We all ha...
- Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:04 am
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
- Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:25 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
... I would like to see future inauguration dial the SSB back to its origins. Get a quartet to barrel through it like a sea chantey. Something with distinctive style but not over-adorned. I wish I had a recording of us doing it, but the 3rd NH Volunteer Post Band in the Civil War had an arrangement...
- Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:17 am
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
- Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:58 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Triad trouble
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2006
Re: Triad trouble
Wow! How many modulations were there?
Kudos to the guy doing the piano accompaniment after the fact.
Couldn't they have gotten a real singer to perform?
Here's another post hoc accompanied version:
Kudos to the guy doing the piano accompaniment after the fact.

Couldn't they have gotten a real singer to perform?

Here's another post hoc accompanied version:
- Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:49 pm
- Forum: Performance
- Topic: Tenor Trombone solos arranged for Bass?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 747
Re: Tenor Trombone solos arranged for Bass?
I think an alto with Bb attachment might have a better chance. The only note missing is E below the bass staff (whatever that translates to in the Horn part).
- Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:17 am
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Holton TR-150 First Impressions
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1079
Re: Holton TR-150 First Impressions
Nice playing, Tom. I think there is something about the 9 inch (225 mm) bell because I heard some facets of the sound that reminded me of the King 5B i played for a while. It's much rounder than most 8.5 inch (215 mm) bell instruments I have.
- Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:39 pm
- Forum: Mouthpieces
- Topic: bass mpc c. 28.5mm rim, very deep cup?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1255
Re: bass mpc c. 28.5mm rim, very deep cup?
Wasn't there a Helleberg cup bass trombone mouthpiece? I don't remember who made it if there was. Helleberg tuba mouthpieces have relatively narrow rims and deep conical cups. FWIW, Doug put me on a LB 112/L/L8 setup (there was no XB at the time) and I moved over to an L7 backbore (don't think he st...
- Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:52 am
- Forum: News & Announcements
- Topic: American Trombone Workshop 2021
- Replies: 8
- Views: 792
Re: American Trombone Workshop 2021
Hope there will be a seminar this year - even if it is just a one-day virtual event. Either way, I'll miss the college trombone choirs and vendors. In the meantime, I enjoyed the US Army Band Trombone Choir version of the 1812 Overture; released yesterday. If you missed it, look here: https://www.y...
- Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:03 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Voight J188FX
- Replies: 12
- Views: 927
Re: Voight J188FX
Notice also that the tubing right by the valve does not have a "knuckle". This could make the blow much more open.
Interesting design. I like it.
Interesting design. I like it.
- Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:16 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Slotting?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2209
Re: Slotting?
Beginners do better with deep slots. This helps train them to play in the middle of the tone.
I suspect how wide the slot is would be dependent on the overall design. You don't build a horn for this aspect; it usually comes "for the ride".
I suspect how wide the slot is would be dependent on the overall design. You don't build a horn for this aspect; it usually comes "for the ride".
- Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:52 am
- Forum: Accessories
- Topic: Best Double Case for Tenor and Bass Trombone
- Replies: 16
- Views: 950
Re: Best Double Case for Tenor and Bass Trombone
Another option is to have a gig bag and a case for golf clubs. You can pack around the gig bag with clothes or other padding material. Seems the Baggage Gorillas are more careful with golf club bags than musical instrument cases.
- Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:39 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Besson 35
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1658
Re: Besson 35
My doctor says there's no worry to have with raw brass contact... And I never experienced any problems with it so far. There are some who will experience a rash from playing on a raw brass mouthpiece (I am not one of them). If you suck on the mouthpiece for very long periods of time you might extra...
- Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:28 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Help with college decision
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1121
Re: Help with college decision
Of the three I would guess Baylor will give the best football experience. After all, the Baylor team often goes to a Bowl game after the season.
Don't forget to look into playing in the Marching Band for a tuition reduction.
Don't forget to look into playing in the Marching Band for a tuition reduction.
- Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:33 am
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: beginner should not get a pro level horn? Why?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1308
Re: beginner should not get a pro level horn? Why?
The 24H is closer to a 2B than a 3B. And there's nothing wrong with a nice 24H for you either.
- Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:28 am
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Help with college decision
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1121
Re: Help with college decision
Is this for music? Music Ed? Something else? If it's for music, have you talked to or gotten a lesson with the prof? How do you like the studio? What's very important is the fit between you and the school; something we can't evaluate from a simple question like this. If you plan to major in somethin...
- Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:08 am
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Besson 35
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1658
Re: Besson 35
What used to be called "Low Pitch" was actually at A=435 Hz, which is a bit flat compared to modern pitch (A=440 Hz). Shortening the tuning slide should do what you want. Incidentally, I have a mouthpiece that looks just like the one you show except it is engraved "19". The shank is actually smaller...
- Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:22 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Phil Teele Studies on Tenor Trombone
- Replies: 7
- Views: 555
Re: Phil Teele Studies on Tenor Trombone
Understand that the exercises go to a range that is pretty far outside of where you would play a tenor trombone. Also, they MANDATE an F-attachment and really need a double trigger.
That said, no reason you can't use the Teele studies for your lower register.
That said, no reason you can't use the Teele studies for your lower register.
- Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:17 am
- Forum: Music Business
- Topic: Instrument repair and Creation, how'd you get into it?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 578
Re: Instrument repair and Creation, how'd you get into it?
The Brass and Woodwind Shop has a bunch of videos on YouTube showing different aspects of instrument repair. I think one of the videos shows how he got into the business. The course at Red Wing (I believe it may have a different name now) is less than a year and gives you the basics. After that you ...
- Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:59 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
You knew this was the next phase. All so you can keep your Texas electrical grid "pure".
I feel for those poor residents with broken pipes.
I feel for those poor residents with broken pipes.
- Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:24 pm
- Forum: Comments & Suggestions
- Topic: Messages stuck in the Outbox
- Replies: 2
- Views: 304
Re: Messages stuck in the Outbox
Your outbox will show the messages until they are picked up by the receiver. Nothing you can do about that.
- Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:50 am
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
Texas is a bastion of deregulation. Here is a clear view of the downside. I hope people will remember this as they decry Government regulation. I don't think it's fair to take an unprecedented natural disaster and then blame the outcome on neoliberalism. I didn't read the article since I don't have...
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:46 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
Texas is a bastion of deregulation. Here is a clear view of the downside. I hope people will remember this as they decry Government regulation.
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:42 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Selmer Paris F attachmemt trombone
- Replies: 3
- Views: 383
Re: Selmer Paris F attachmemt trombone
When Selmer took over the Bach Company they came to an agreement that Bach would have exclusive sales of trumpets and trombones in the US. Thus we have Selmer saxophones but Selmer trombones and trumpets are rare. That's not to say they are bad. In fact, the Selmer Bolero and Largo trombones are exc...
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:35 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Highest note in the symphonic repertoire
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1168
Re: Highest note in the symphonic repertoire
Beethoven's 5th has an F that is often remarked on. Labeled as "alto" but often played on tenor. 5th.jpg Which makes me wonder whether trombone players 200 years ago were much better than us, or did Beethoven just hate them? Remember that composers of Beethoven's era were writing based on the Eb Al...
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:54 pm
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Highest note in the symphonic repertoire
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1168
Re: Highest note in the symphonic repertoire
Welcome to the Chat! There was a time when the three parts in a trombone section were for an alto in Eb, a tenor in Bb, and a bass in F. But there was also a contention that the three trombones were all the same length but of different bore sizes. Consorts of Sackbuts (the instrument in use before t...
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:10 am
- Forum: Accessories
- Topic: Smallest case for Bach lt16m?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 723
Re: Smallest case for Bach lt16m?
I got my Holtone Stratodyne in an Olds Ambassador casel, about the same size as the Conn case Jacob shows above but wood with vinyl cover. The plastic molded cases were popular in the late 1960s and 1970s when the Samsonite briefcase was also popular. I have one from a Holton Collegiate of the same ...
- Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:29 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
According to news reports, the Power Grid has rectified the problems and the brownouts and blackouts should be fixed. I hope Texans manage to recover with minimal pain. I saw a YouTube posting from a guy who specializes in old computer equipment (much of which I used to use!) and he had an external ...
- Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:21 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
... I read a story that it cost $9000 to charge your Tesla in Texas a couple of days ago. It's called "free market economy". Supply and demand. Very little supply plus demand yields high prices. That's why I had to wait 3 hours in line and pay twice the usual per gallon (liter) rate for gasoline in...
- Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:02 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
The problem is that Texans don't expect this kind of cold weather. I remember laughing inside when my grandparents moved to South Florida and started complaining about how cold it was when the temperature dipped to 50 degrees F (about 10 C). Freezes are much rarer in the deep South US. As such, thin...
- Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:19 am
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
I had suggested that this was New England winter weather because we generally get a week or two of sub-zero (Fahrenheit) temperatures during January or February with mean winter temperatures just below freezing. I know that winter can be much colder, especially in the north-central US and Canadian P...
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:21 pm
- Forum: (Classifieds) Mouthpieces
- Topic: Giddings Chubasco, Brassark 4G(.277)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 272
Re: Giddings Chubasco, Brassark 4G(.277)
OK. It's where it belongs now.
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:18 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
It’s amazing to me that the US can land a spacecraft on Mars but that people are freezing to death in Texas. This is extremely unusual weather for Texas. It rarely gets very cold for more than a day or two and this freeze has gone on for a week. You don't usually build infrastructure for conditions...
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:13 pm
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:56 am
- Forum: Tangents
- Topic: Texas gets New England winter weather
- Replies: 66
- Views: 2758
Re: Texas gets New England winter weather
Somewhat reminds me of when I lived in Baltimore many years ago. We had a blizzard of 14 inches of snow. Maryland NEVER sees that much snow, even though it gets some during the winter. I had a neighbor from Pittsburgh and between us my kiddie snow shovel that I keep in my car got a lot of use. Again...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:39 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Steel bead
- Replies: 9
- Views: 858
Re: Steel bead
There is also a half round bell rim wire where the flat part is against the flare and the round part has the brass bent around it. The bead (bell brass wrapped around the wire) can be soldered or not. If it is soldered, all the open space between the wire and rim is filled with solder. There is a bi...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:21 pm
- Forum: (Classifieds) Everything Else
- Topic: WTB: Arban
- Replies: 8
- Views: 441
Re: WTB: Arban
If you don't mind reading transposing treble clef it's available for free on IMSLP. I have an older treble clef version edited by Edwin Franko Goldman. Note that there are two bass clef versions out there. The older one is edited by Charles Randall and Simone Mantia. The newer one is edited by Joe A...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:47 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Hand-Hammered Olds
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1052
Re: Hand-Hammered Olds
There used to be an option to have the planishing around the bell throat. It was an extra cost option and my Olds came with it but because I didn't know what it was I had it removed :weep: :weep: FWIW, mine is TIS, Medium Large bore, with an 8 inch bell. I believe the tuning in bell instruments were...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:33 pm
- Forum: Instruments
- Topic: Steel bead
- Replies: 9
- Views: 858
Re: Steel bead
Bell rim wires have been made of steel for a long time.
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:05 am
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: Practice mute for dummies!
- Replies: 7
- Views: 508
Re: Practice mute for dummies!
Big issue with practice mutes is that they muffle sound (after all, that's what they are supposed to do). The nice thing about the Yamaha is you can adjust the sound in the earphones to match how loud you are unmuted. This tempers the tendency to blast out with resulting problems when you are unmute...
- Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:46 am
- Forum: Teaching & Learning
- Topic: 3B
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1815
Re: 3B
Harrison, you have to understand that in the US COVID is only part disease and part political football. Some areas of the US treat COVID as an inconvenience to be ignored. Florida appears to be one such place.
I'm headed out do a doctor appointment and per recommendations I'll be double masked.
I'm headed out do a doctor appointment and per recommendations I'll be double masked.