Error in Arban

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Error in Arban

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I suspect that most people are aware of this, but I did not discover it when I took lessons 57 years ago. The last system in Exercise 46 in the Arban book, p. 27, is written in C flat. As such it needs accidentals explicitly showing B double flat, which it does not have. It would be logically written in E, with a D natural on the 24th note in the line. The problem could be solved without changing the notes written by changing the key signature to 8 flats, but I think 4 sharps would be better.
It's particularly interesting to me because in band, and I think most people who practiced Arban were band players, seldom has songs in E, whereas I have seen it commonly in orchestra music.
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Originally Arban's was written for trumpet and was transcribed to C from Bb for the trombone edition.

Arban's for trumpet went from 6 sharps to 6 flats, a reasonable range.

In the transliterated trombone version it now is from 4 sharps to 8 flats. And 7 and 8 flats are VERY uncommon keys.

I was taught to take the Bb exercises and move them up a half step to be in B (5 sharps). You can similarly take the exercises in F and move them up a half step to F# (6 sharps).
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There are tons of errors in the Simone Mantia trombone Arban's book.
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To get nit picky, Arian was written for cornet

Conservatory students already played trumpet, they needed to learn valves.
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Yeah, I always LOLed when I played exercises in there with a key signature that contained a double flat. Um, I think not. I always assumed it was a transposition error from trumpet.
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If the transcribers for trombone were smart, they would have just put the scale exercises from 6 sharps to 6 flats. Other exercises actually work well centered around the key of Bb going in both directions because of the mechanics of the instrument. I understand that the Alessi-Bowman version has fixed this, but I haven't seen it.
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brassmedic wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:00 am Yeah, I always LOLed when I played exercises in there with a key signature that contained a double flat. Um, I think not. I always assumed it was a transposition error from trumpet.
Probably so, although I have occasionally run into the double flat in music the local European wind ensemble played.

Db minor anyone?
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