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bigbandbone
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Could someone post a link to a position chart I can download for a dependent double rotor horn?
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I'm going to be play testing a stock Duo Gravis in a couple of days and I have never played a double rotor horn. If it works out I might be buying it.
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Re: Position chart

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bigbandbone wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am Could someone post a link to a position chart I can download for a dependent double rotor horn?
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I'm going to be play testing a stock Duo Gravis in a couple of days and I have never played a double rotor horn. If it works out I might be buying it.
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Thanks
Do you know which valve tuning you're looking at?

The stock second valve is "E" tuning (drops just a half step). There is an available "D" extension that adds tubing length to bring the "E" tuning down to "D".

--Andy in OKC
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afugate wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:01 am
bigbandbone wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am Could someone post a link to a position chart I can download for a dependent double rotor horn?
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I'm going to be play testing a stock Duo Gravis in a couple of days and I have never played a double rotor horn. If it works out I might be buying it.
-
Thanks
Do you know which valve tuning you're looking at?

The stock second valve is "E" tuning (drops just a half step). There is an available "D" extension that adds tubing length to bring the "E" tuning down to "D".

--Andy in OKC
Let's go with E tuning.
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There isn't much use for a 2nd valve in E except for two notes: C now in T5 and B in T6 (with both valves). What you know about F positions should translate just fine.

With a D 2nd valve, low C is now where 4th position is on the Bb side, Db in a longish T2, B in a longish T4 and you may be able to find Bb at the end of the slide.
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Here's a link to a PDF with a good position chart for regular, F, and D:

http://www.yeodoug.com/resources/faq/fa ... art_01.pdf
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bigbandbone wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am Could someone post a link to a position chart I can download for a dependent double rotor horn?
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I'm going to be play testing a stock Duo Gravis in a couple of days and I have never played a double rotor horn. If it works out I might be buying it.
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Thanks
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Others have posted charts for Bb-F-D; Here is a chart for Bb-F-Flat E; a lot of D-G's are set up that way.

I suppose I should include the standard caution, just in case some newbie bass trombonist reads this thread some day:
The position charts just get you in the general neighborhood. Use your ears and find the spot where the note is in tune without lipping it up or down.
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I've always wondered how many people use the valves over the third partial regularly. I've been brainstorming, probably a bit too much, on what I'd really "gain" if I decide to pick up an independent bass trombone.

I've also been thinking about about the "G-Valve" movement, and how it may make more sense for a tenor player to have a G attachment than an F attachment, if the valve is looked at primarily as a way to reduce large slide movements.
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