Older bach mouthpieces vs new ones

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Slydeflex
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Older bach mouthpieces vs new ones

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Has anyone noticed any difference playing wise between older and newer bach mouthpieces? I have a 70's era and a newer one and prefer the newer.
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There's a difference between basically every mouthpiece made by Bach (or any maker, really).

In general? Some are bigger now. Some by a lot (3G). Otherwise I'm not sure if you can much of anything that would be wholly encompassing.
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Burgerbob has it pretty spot on. Some makers are more consistent but older (especially Bach) have the reputation of being all over the road, thus feel and play differently. I have several Bach 7 mouthpieces ( couple Mt.Vernon, a couple of corp., a newer one) and they all are a bit different. I have a Mt.Vernon that feels a bit smaller than the Mt.Vernon, and the larger fo those 2 is pretty close to a Corp. lettered i have.

A story i heard about Roy Main is in the first lesson or so with him he would open a drawer full of Bach 11c mouthpieces and would have you try out each one till he heard one that sounded good and would tell you to keep it and bring $36 to tbe next lesson.
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Thrawn22 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:31 pm

A story i heard about Roy Main is in the first lesson or so with him he would open a drawer full of Bach 11c mouthpieces and would have you try out each one till he heard one that sounded good and would tell you to keep it and bring $36 to tbe next lesson.
That is interesting, my experience so far has been that the newer bachs are tighter, more focused than some older ones
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On my 3b, I have a corp. 6 1/2 al and a new 6 1/2 and the corp is slightly darker, but the newer is slightly more easy to play.
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bassbone721 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:06 pm On my 3b, I have a corp. 6 1/2 al and a new 6 1/2 and the corp is slightly darker, but the newer is slightly more easy to play.
That is what i found also.
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The quick answer to any question about comparing Bach mouthpieces is: they're different.

Got two you bought on the same day? They're different.

And it's not just Bach. I have never found two mouthpieces of the same model from any manufacturer that were identical.
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Just find the one you like and practice
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There is the time
Bubble Bill Hamilton
Went on the road w Doug Elliot
In a MOOD band
Bill had been trying to play 11C for years
Because of Jangles and Carl
Ok 4 rim w a Cish cup
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The old ones are more expencive.
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For some reason I've always liked the MV era better. I'm not sure whether they are, or perhaps it's just sentimentality for something old. That said, the New York pieces don't suit me.

The only consistent aspect is inconsistency.
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