Long shot: Mouthpiece modifications in Japan?
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Long shot: Mouthpiece modifications in Japan?
I know it's a long shot. Does anyone know of any shops in Japan that can enlarge a throat on a mouthpiece?
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Re: Long shot: Mouthpiece modifications in Japan?
You may want to also try Isleriche mouthpieces.
He crafts and sells his own mouthpieces. Can't remember his name, but I think he was educated in the states.
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He crafts and sells his own mouthpieces. Can't remember his name, but I think he was educated in the states.
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Thanks guys!
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There's another thread about opening out mouthpieces but I can't find it. I'm in favour of it if done gradually, but there certainly wasn't any love for the procedure on this forum..harrisonreed wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:10 am I know it's a long shot. Does anyone know of any shops in Japan that can enlarge a throat on a mouthpiece?
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I'm well aware that there is little love for the procedure on TTF and TC, but I'm not planning on opening the mouthpiece up that much -- a little goes a looong way.Pre59 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:53 amThere's another thread about opening out mouthpieces but I can't find it. I'm in favour of it if done gradually, but there certainly wasn't any love for the procedure on this forum..harrisonreed wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:10 am I know it's a long shot. Does anyone know of any shops in Japan that can enlarge a throat on a mouthpiece?
The V3 has a much smaller throat than I've played on for the last 15 years or so -- everything I've had has ranged from .283" to .300", and the V3 is something like .274". It doesn't sound like a lot but that's makes for a 7-14% smaller area in the throat from what I'm used to.
I think if I increase the throat area by 7% and see how that goes, I'll get the extra volume I'm looking for and be happy. I don't know a lot about machining, but that's like an I to a K reamer.
It'll be cool to see what these shops say here.
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On a 11C and 12C the popular modification for the throat was .250", but the skill was getting the backbore to match the throat. The first time I took the mp home with just the throat bored, and returned after a couple of gigs to start on the backbore which was settled on after a couple more visits.
The criterion was how well the mid balanced with the low end as I remember it, and the reamer was marked with a line for that mouthpiece type.
The criterion was how well the mid balanced with the low end as I remember it, and the reamer was marked with a line for that mouthpiece type.
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I agree with Pre59 - the throat has to be balanced with the backbore and cup volume. If there won't be any changes made to the backbore, then I wouldn't go any larger than .276/.277 in the throat. You'll notice a difference AND you won't be left with an expensive paperweight.
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I am fiddling around with an old Conn "Tait" model mouthpiece.. The rim id and cup depth are fairly big but with a V shape and a tiny small backbore.. Gives a unique and beautiful sound.. Dont discard the idea of balancing out a big mouthpiece with a tight throat and backbore... Or: the other way around, big throat backbore/smaller cup.. Find the right blow for it..
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I don't know how expensive it is but I've heard that Yamaha has a pretty awesome custom mouthpiece experience. Might be worth investigating while you're over there anyway!
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Oh for real!? I just assumed it was in Japan based on comments from Doug Yeo in some of his interviews from a number of years ago from when he worked on the YBL622 and his signature piece. If you're Doug Yeo you probably do get some degree of special treatment though!
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I think you’re both right, I know people who has had custom mouthpieces made in both the Atelier in Germany and in JapanMatt K wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:17 pm Oh for real!? I just assumed it was in Japan based on comments from Doug Yeo in some of his interviews from a number of years ago from when he worked on the YBL622 and his signature piece. If you're Doug Yeo you probably do get some degree of special treatment though!
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Aha! I would actually be really interested in hearing about someone's direct experience. I've heard a lot but how much of it is real would be interesting. E.g. I've heard that they basically make a few solid sterling blanks and make adjustments so you can A/B on the spot w/o having it go out for plating.\
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Haha yeah, that sounds beyond expensive. I'll leave prototyping and silver blanks to people who are going to get a signature mouthpiece deal.
I remember some of the Doug Yeo blanks looked first and foremost way too heavy, but also just plain dumb looking. Seems they settled on a more normal blank in the end.
I remember some of the Doug Yeo blanks looked first and foremost way too heavy, but also just plain dumb looking. Seems they settled on a more normal blank in the end.