Someone take my soldering torch away from me...
A new project begins...
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A new project begins...
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Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: A new project begins...
Interesting! What's the final product supposed to do?
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are still missing!
Greg Songer
King 606, King 3B-F: DE LT101/LTD/D3
King 4B-F: Bach 5G Megatone gold plated
King 2107 bass: DE MB109/MB J/J8 King
Greg Songer
King 606, King 3B-F: DE LT101/LTD/D3
King 4B-F: Bach 5G Megatone gold plated
King 2107 bass: DE MB109/MB J/J8 King
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Re: A new project begins...
A rotor valve superbone is the plan.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
- Kingfan
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Re: A new project begins...
I'm grabbing my popcorn and watching this project!
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are still missing!
Greg Songer
King 606, King 3B-F: DE LT101/LTD/D3
King 4B-F: Bach 5G Megatone gold plated
King 2107 bass: DE MB109/MB J/J8 King
Greg Songer
King 606, King 3B-F: DE LT101/LTD/D3
King 4B-F: Bach 5G Megatone gold plated
King 2107 bass: DE MB109/MB J/J8 King
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Re: A new project begins...
That's a Bach valve in the middle and the one on the right looks like a Benge, Conn or King (Some type of 1990s UMI rotor). What's the valve on the left?
Yikes....did you chop off the port tubing and attach a new piece of tubing to the left rotor at a different angle? Dangerous move. Usually, the port tubes sustain a lot of stress. Thus, the reason why they are brazed instead of soft soldered and many models have thicker gauge metal in that area to resist bending/twisting. Be careful with how you brace that area. Any bending of the port could possibly make the rotor bind.
Yikes....did you chop off the port tubing and attach a new piece of tubing to the left rotor at a different angle? Dangerous move. Usually, the port tubes sustain a lot of stress. Thus, the reason why they are brazed instead of soft soldered and many models have thicker gauge metal in that area to resist bending/twisting. Be careful with how you brace that area. Any bending of the port could possibly make the rotor bind.
Brian D. Hinkley - Player, Teacher, Technician and Trombone Enthusiast
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Re: A new project begins...
The valves are Eastman, Bach, and King. All three had various damage to the rotor knuckles. I cut nothing, I just Silver soldered on extra brass tubing as patches. My goal is to utilize junk from my parts bin to build a fun project. If it fails, oh well.
Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: A new project begins...
Valves 1 and 3 are plumbed... still working on two. I made them both a bit long so I can cut them down to correct tuning later.
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Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
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Re: A new project begins...
All .547?
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Re: A new project begins...
Yes. Second valve section in place. A bit hacked together but it works. I’ve purposely cut all of the valve tubing a bit long so I can cut it down a bit later if I need to.
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Michael Conkey
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto
Southern Oregon Trombonist
-Besson Be944 Sovereign with Hagmann
-Holton TR-140 “monster” valve
-Modified Schiller 7B clone
-King 4B with custom bell
-Jin Bao Alto