Vibration with mute????

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DakoJack
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Vibration with mute????

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I have recently started getting a very noticeable metallic buzz with my wooden face mute. It mainly occurs around the 6th partial of the horn Fs and Es real bad. I wasn't having this issue on my Getzen 3508R but it has started to happen now that I've switched to my Getzen Sterling Artist model. I can shave down the bumpers on the mute ,but I want to make sure that's the issue before I do that. The sterling does have a much smaller bell so that's my thought but I am interested in everyone's thoughts. :idk:
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Re: Vibration with mute????

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I get a buzz when the mute is too big for the bell throat, like the H&B 199 on my King 7B.

Is this the Colortone fiber mute with the wood bottom? They tend to fit VERY tight in most of my bells.

Quick test: Try holding the mute just a little out from where it fits and play a few notes (you may be limited to 1st position).
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BGuttman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:13 pm I get a buzz when the mute is too big for the bell throat, like the H&B 199 on my King 7B.

Is this the Colortone fiber mute with the wood bottom? They tend to fit VERY tight in most of my bells.

Quick test: Try holding the mute just a little out from where it fits and play a few notes (you may be limited to 1st position).
Pulling it out a little bit definitley helps alot and its a facet mute like the one in this video I can sand down the sides that hold it in if you think thats the issue but if its the sized of the mute itself thats another issue.
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DakoJack wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:32 pm
BGuttman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:13 pm I get a buzz when the mute is too big for the bell throat, like the H&B 199 on my King 7B.

Is this the Colortone fiber mute with the wood bottom? They tend to fit VERY tight in most of my bells.

Quick test: Try holding the mute just a little out from where it fits and play a few notes (you may be limited to 1st position).
Pulling it out a little bit definitley helps alot and its a facet mute like the one in this video I can sand down the sides that hold it in if you think thats the issue but if its the sized of the mute itself thats another issue.
Update 2 holding it in eliminates the buzz so now worse case scenario i can just hold it while I play. I wonder if shaving it down will cause it to go in further and more snug or worsen the problem.
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Re: Vibration with mute????

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As supplied Facet mutes have VERY thick corks, so you should have lots of room to shave down (at least the ones I have are that way). On the other hand, the H&B 199 and Colortone have very thin corks and there is no room to do any shaving.

Also, I found my Facet cup to have a "buzzier" sound than (for example) my JoRal or Denis Wick cups. That's an issue if you decide to use one in a Jazz Band -- it won't blend well with a section using all Wicks or all H&B's.
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