FOIA and Fun(with Music, I swear)

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FOIA and Fun(with Music, I swear)

Post by elmsandr » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:39 am

So, the Marine band played Baby Shark for the Nationals when they visited... Apparently somebody decided that it would be interesting to FOIA their arrangement.

It worked:

https://twitter.com/russelneiss/status/ ... 05568?s=21

So, uh, can you FOIA the entire US Band Library if you are patient enough?

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Post by JohnL » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:43 pm

Bouncy, like an infantile cartilaginous fish
Now THAT'S funny.
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Post by Posaunus » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:30 pm

Good grief. The "President's Own" playing this ditty! What would have John Philip Sousa thought? :idk:
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Post by BGuttman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:39 pm

All Military arrangements are property of the US Gummint and thus are supposedly property of all of us.

I know that a few Airmen of Note Big Band arrangements are available. They tend to try to give them to non-commercial users (non-profit performing organizations or schools).

Never hurts to ask for one if you think you'd like to play it -- as long as you don't plan to profit from it.

As to Sousa's reaction to the President's Own playing "Baby Shark", he'd probably have done the arrangement himself if it was written while he was alive. Many of his marches contain paraphrases of other tunes. "The Peacemaker" (dedicated to Teddy Roosevelt's efforts to negotiate an end to the Russo-Japanese War in 1905) is a pastiche of the Russian and Japanese National Hymns.
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Post by elmsandr » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:05 pm

Posaunus wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:30 pm
Good grief. The "President's Own" playing this ditty! What would have John Philip Sousa thought? :idk:
Washington Post was written to celebrate the winner of a youth essay contest... pretty sure if he got paid he would have been fine with it.

It’s music, man.
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Post by Doug Elliott » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:42 pm

I think a lot of the military arrangers have their own agreements - their work is not publicly available and reverts to their own property after a period of time.
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Post by bbocaner » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:40 am

It would have been hilarious if they had redacted like one note in the second clarinet part.
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Post by sungfw » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:58 am

BGuttman wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:39 pm
All Military arrangements are property of the US Gummint and thus are supposedly property of all of us.
Only if they're works for hire or, if not a work for hire, the copyright has been assigned to the government.

The fact that the arranger is, coincidentally, a member of the military (or an employee of another branch of the US government) does not, in and of itself, automatically render an arranger's composition property of the US government.
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