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Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:44 pm
by ttf_MrPillow
Hello all. Browsing some old newspaper clippings I came across this entry -

The Morning Tulsa daily world. (Tulsa, Okla.), 17 Oct. 1920. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress. <http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... -1/seq-35/>

Under "Await Jazz Trombone," the author states -

QuoteEurope will not have real jazz, however, until she introduces saxaphone, unknown here, and the trombone player with the palsied hand
Does anyone have any interpretive guesses as to what what a "palsied hand" might be in reference to? I have some thoughts, but would like to hear what others gather from this excerpt.

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:14 pm
by ttf_LowrBrass
Ha! Good synonym for chainsaw slide vibrato  Image

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:44 am
by ttf_kbiggs
Perhaps a trombonist known for using vibrato frequently? Or perhaps a certain style of vibrato that was popular in the 20's, e.g., fast and frequent?

I'm rather ignorant of early 20th century jazz. Perhaps the author is referring to Jack Teagarden? Trummy Young? Maybe Dicky Wells? I believe he toured Europe--Paris?--in the teens or 20's. 

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:04 am
by ttf_baileyman
Seems like the "involuntary tremors" part of the definition would suggest slide vibrato. 



Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:37 am
by ttf_jack
I believe Leopold (father of Wolfgang Amadeus) Mozart wrote of palsy in relation incessant vibrato by string players.  He thought, correctly in my opinion, it was bad thing.

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:44 am
by ttf_robcat2075
Yeah, must be "vibrato".

So that guy is commenting from Europe? And there are no (invented in Europe) saxophones?

I wonder if he had ever heard Arthur Pryor. That's a more severe vibrato than anything you'll hear on a "jazz" recording of that era.


I'm always skeptical of any use of the word "jazz" that early because they seemed to apply it almost any dance music that was odd in some way. They might talk about having heard some "jazz" but it's hard to know what they encountered.   



Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:04 am
by ttf_conn88plyr
Quote from: LowrBrass on Sep 26, 2016, 07:14PMHa! Good synonym for chainsaw slide vibrato  Image
Agreed!

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:38 pm
by ttf_jakeway1
Si Zentner

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:03 am
by ttf_M.R.Tenor
Si Zentner would've been a toddler at the time the article was written...

Interpretation of "palsied hand"

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:03 am
by ttf_M.R.Tenor
Si Zentner would've been a toddler at the time the article was written...