Lightweight slides prone to damage?

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TomWest
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Lightweight slides prone to damage?

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Are lightweight slides like the 2b Jigs Whigham model and others that use a lighter and I would assume, thinner material to make them lighter, for supposedly faster action, more prone to damage? Are slide replacements a reality with that type of trombone?
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A plastic hanger fell a couple of feet on to my 5H slide and dinged it.

LW slides allow you to feel imperfections more.
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Typically light weight just means no oversleeves. It can also mean nickel liters instead of brass. Nickel is actually more durable but more difficult to repair.
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As far as I am aware... most manufacturer's lightweight slides will typically use the same tubes as a standard weight slide, but without the oversleeves. This leaves them vulnerable to wear at contact points, but the same otherwise.
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Matt K wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 4:43 am Typically light weight just means no oversleeves. It can also mean nickel liters instead of brass. Nickel is actually more durable but more difficult to repair.
Yep. My ‘57 6H had the oversleeves removed. It’s very light and fast.
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No, for the reasons given above.
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Thank you all for your help, I appreciate it.
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The outers dent easier, but they don't tend to go out of alignment more than any other. Just be careful.
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Modern slides also have really tight tolerances compared to the vintage ones. Healthy ones do feel smoother because of that - it's worth it. And yes, be careful.
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