Rifling on Conn 3?

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Rifling on Conn 3?

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I was going through some mouthpieces for students to use and found a Conn 3 in the pile. I checked to see if it was clean enough to play and found something really cool in the throat of the mouthpiece: rifling! Has anyone seen this on any other mouthpieces?
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Glenn Zottola mouthpieces hade riffled backbore. Some of us tried them in the 60s.
Yes that´s right JohnL, not riffled. stepped.
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Best Brass also has mouthpieces like this.
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That's a really tight twist.
harrisonreed wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:55 am Best Brass also has mouthpieces like this.
Are those cut in a spiral? It looks more like they're simple circumferential grooves.
Olofson wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:29 am Glenn Zottola mouthpieces hade riffled backbore. Some of us tried them in the 60s.
I thought Zottola used a stepped backbore. That's certainly what the patent says.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2798402A
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At one time, I had a lot of the Elkhart Conn mouthpieces. I don’t remember “rifling” marks like that in any of those. Perhaps someone made some aftermarket modifications with a reamer or a drill bit?
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I'm certain it was aftermarket. My Conn 3 has no rifling in the aperture (or anywhere else on the piece).
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That really looks like a failed attempt at reaming out the throat. Maybe they used a cylindrical file?
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Crazy4Tbone86 wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:29 pm At one time, I had a lot of the Elkhart Conn mouthpieces. I don’t remember “rifling” marks like that in any of those. Perhaps someone made some aftermarket modifications with a reamer or a drill bit?
I'm thinking maybe a tap?
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Off topic a bit, but a tap and die set can be useful.

I just helped assemble a handicapped ramp for a neighbor who'd had surgery. It's an assortment of pieces to be used temporarily so gets moved fairly often. The crew ran a tap down every threaded hole and a die across every threaded piece before assembling. That avoided a lot of frustration over munged up or just dirty threads.
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