What do you call this style of cut bell?

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What do you call this style of cut bell?

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Found on Goodwill:

https://shopgoodwill.com/item/195612217

They say it "needs repair" but I can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe there's some slight wear on the inner stockings or something that might need to be addressed...
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The “almost got it”.
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Can opener.
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Was this supposed be someone's "poor man's sackbut"? I can't imagine that the intonation is very good.
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Is that a leadpipe inside what's left of the bell flare in the second pic???
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Nope, that’s the shank of a mouthpiece—the shank is out of round.


It looks like we have an answer for the custom cut-bell design. I’m guessing someone got their mouthpiece stuck, didn’t think to remove the tuning slide, and decided to use a can opener, metal snips, or some other weapon of brass destruction to remove it.
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ryebrye wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:06 am They say it "needs repair" but I can't quite put my finger on why.
I've bought a couple of (junk, parts, fooling around) things from them. I've never seen any evidence that any Goodwill employee at any location has any grasp of anything about any brass instrument. :lol: That is probably also true of any other kind of instrument as well.
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I'd be interested to know what sort of process made that cut.
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Some kind of (monster) cutting pliers.
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Doug Elliott wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:26 am I'd be interested to know what sort of process made that cut.
It looks to me as though it may have been just straight through with a saw (hacksaw, bandsaw, ...), but then the edge was bent down in increments with pliers -- perhaps to enable it to wedge into some other bell-like structure.
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Attempted bead?
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I would call this a hackbut, but it's not even a good one.
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Good one Bruce.
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I have a much better hackbut. It's an older Holton Collegiate that somebody sawed off the bell flare. Nice clean edge. Doesn't sound anything like a sackbut, but played a lot softer than before. Perfect horn to use with unmiked school musicals.
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BGuttman wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:12 pm I would call this a hackbut, but it's not even a good one.
That’s funny!!!
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Is this just a flare that got twisted and wrinkled, then somebody tried to “help” and straighten it out improperly? A bit extreme, but I’ve seen a number of holes just ripped in flares from similar bell twists.

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I think this is the result of a divorce settlement.
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Somebody got it cheap.
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Yeah, someone got a good deal on the spare parts / case

The shipping was about $40 to my place, otherwise I would have bid on it just to have extra Jupiter parts around...

The reason I didn't bid on it though is because I don't run a repair business and don't have any Jupiter student models in need of parts :lol:
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djhendy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:24 pm I think this is the result of a divorce settlement.
Somebody else got custody of the bell flare?
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Early 2000s Jupiter bells break like this frequently. It's a manufacturing issue. I have replaced many many trumpet bells that had broken in this way.
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