Bass Mouthpiece

[KelanG]

I am currently on a griego Cs1 mouthpiece, as the second chair bass trombonist at my school. The first chair gave me the mouthpiece in about November, and he told me to get a better one as soon as possible. I've grown to like the mouthpiece, however I am looking for more. what would be a suggestion to upgrade further?

[KelanG]

Also I am looking to upgrade now as I am receiving his old Bass, some sort of Getzen in the next week or so. he just received his new Shires.

[Posaunus]

Griego mouthpieces are VERY good. As are Getzen trombones.

What makes you think that you need "a better one?" Why are you looking for "more?"

The only reason you might have to change mouthpieces is if the Rim diameter is wrong for your embouchure - but you won't know that without professional advice.

If there is something lacking in your Getzen trombone, bring it to a qualified technician for adjustment.

You and your section mate are more than privileged, and apparently also entitled. You don't need a Shires trombone in high school.

My recommendation: Save your parents' money, stick with what you are already playing, take lessons from a competent professional trombone teacher, and continue to improve on your current (excellent) equipment.
Check again when you graduate from high school to see if it's then wise to make a change.

[KelanG]

I'm honestly just trying to follow the advice of my superior, I am not playing the Getzen yet, I've been on a yamaha Xeno for a little over a year now. I was just going off the fact that I was told to get something deeper quick. Though with that, I know I should take it with a grain of salt as my superior takes his playing very seriously and assumes we all have indefinite time to practice. The only reason he got a shires was because his plan to major in bass trombone, and he was reaching the physical limits of the Getzen our school has. I was honestly expecting this response but thought I would give it a try

[Posaunus]

A Getzen CS1 bass trombone mouthpiece is already adequately "deep."

I suggest consulting a knowledgeable professional trombonist, not your high school classmate, for such advice.

[KelanG]

Honestly fair enough, he plays on the closest thing I've seen to a tuba mouthpiece. I guess I was sort of looking to see if what he said was true, but he hasn't led me astray in the past. I appreciate your opinion on the matter. Honestly just excited to get the new horn and thought about the mouthpiece again, so I thought I would ask here

[GabrielRice]

The CS1 is plenty big. Probably too big...but if you can play a full range securely, including above the staff, there's no reason to change it just for the sake of changing.

[KelanG]

Yeah, my range is feeling great on the mouthpiece. Got an easy High A and down to about the Pedal Db or C comfortably. Last time I reached about this range is when I got the other mouthpiece. Sometimes when I'm not too chopped I've gotten up to the high C. Honestly just felt like I reached the same spot so I would ask here to see

[Posaunus]

You're doing fine.

Keep practicing and ignore your section mate's advice.

[tbonesullivan]

Sounds like your section mate thinks the bass trombone is an air cannon and not a resonator. I am going to assume that the CS1 is the stock mouthpiece that comes with the Getzen 3074AFR. If that is the horn that your classmate is reaching the "physical limits" of, it sounds like he's trying to destroy planets with sound.

I would stick with the CS1 if it's working for you. I would assume that's similar to the Griego Classic series 1, which has a 1.118" (28.4) Rim size and a .315" throat, which is by no means a small bass trombone mouthpiece. There are many seasoned professionals that use that size or smaller, especially on the commercial side of things.

[KelanG]

He definitely has a big sound. Yes that is the exact model. it was the stock mouthpiece, and it's working well. I was just reaching about the point of where I previously switched. I've only been playing bass for a little over a year so I'm not super educated on all of it

[JeffBone44]

He definitely has a big sound. Yes that is the exact model. it was the stock mouthpiece, and it's working well. I was just reaching about the point of where I previously switched. I've only been playing bass for a little over a year so I'm not super educated on all of it

If the CS1 working well, then stick with it. Griego mouthpieces are excellent. If you switch to something else, it will not be an upgrade. It will just be different.

Also, I looked up the CS1, and it's similar to a Bach 1G. That's pretty huge. There is definitely no reason to go any deeper. If anything, you should go a tad smaller, like the Griego 1 or .75.