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British top trombonist Roy Williams in Dixieland mode, guesting with The Harlem Ramblers in Switzerland 1999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nek5qW0dEX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYp23iDtoJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDmQzka_E00

I am not sure if this Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Bob Brookmeyer has been put up previously:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7AWpoy68Us

The Howard University Trombone Ensemble performs "Lassus Trombone" and "Just a Closer Walk with Thee" during their Noon Recital in the Gallery Lounge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-yAXMQcfA


The Howard University Trombone Ensemble performs "Little Jazz Waltz" and "Misty" during their Noon Recital in the Gallery Lounge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIRti-hH2W4&mode=related&search=

Quote from: Jox on Apr 29, 2007, 09:30AMDoes anyone understand what he is saying?


He is saying "im great and I can play anything I want"

Quote from: Graham Martin on Apr 29, 2007, 11:19PMBritish top trombonist Roy Williams in Dixieland mode, guesting with The Harlem Ramblers in Switzerland 1999.
does anyone else find it at least slighty amusing the "the harlem ramblers" are a bunch of over-the-hill white guys from zurich?

that was fairly nice playing, though.

Quote from: bassclef on May 02, 2007, 08:13AMdoes anyone else find it at least slighty amusing the "the harlem ramblers" are a bunch of over-the-hill white guys from zurich?

that was fairly nice playing, though.

Nope, unless you are a newbie to the world-wide jazz scene. The Harlem Ramblers may be a little 'over-the-hill', but if you are one of the top professional jazz trombonists in the world, as Roy Williams is, and top paying gigs are so few and far between, you play any style with just about anyone that offers you one. I included the clips because there is so little of Roy available on YouTube, although he has made many superb recordings - some with Americans - some black Americans even.

Being white and coming from Zurich has little to do with anything. Some of the very best jazz comes from Europe. Americans would do well to listen. Historically, many black and white American musicians have preferred to live and work in Europe and that situation continues! Jazz is alive an well in Europe and there has always been a large semi pro scene keeping all styles alive. Maybe that is not always so true in America? Even more amusing might be the fact that one of the most popular styles of jazz in Europe is revival jazz, one branch of which Europeans call New Orleans Jazz. It is very common for European bands to pay respects to the birthplace of jazz by naming themselves so that it conjures up the history of jazz in America.

I have posted this one previously but here is a YouTube of a somewhat younger Roy Williams with the mainstream-jazz-playing Alex Welsh Band - they were originally called the Alex Welsh Dixielanders. Sorry, it happens to be from Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEN5o8-q-fg

Incidentally, Roy Williams is my favourite jazz trombonist bar none! But I also like a lot of American trombonists - black and white.

and one Dane, too - I know, Grah
And thanks for always taking the time to not just defend, but EXPLAIN the jazz music, history and (older) styles for the not-so-knowledgeable . And Roy IS a true master - of all styles from 'dixieland' to 'bebop'. Heard him live only once with a very backward, tuba/banjo Swedish band. And he played the most amazing shít - inside the style - but never letting that style hamper what he said and how he said it. Truly amazing jazzmusician.
erling

Quote from: Graham Martin on May 02, 2007, 07:41PM
 I have posted this one previously but here is a YouTube of a somewhat younger Roy Williams with the mainstream-jazz-playing Alex Welsh Band - they were originally called the Alex Welsh Dixielanders. Sorry, it happens to be from Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEN5o8-q-fg


I like that solo. Great technique, nice sound and beautifully constructed.

graham/erling,

jeez guys, just because i got a small chuckle out of that band's name now i'm a racist, musically ignorant no-playing-mother-******? 

please. you don't know me.

i said the playing was good and i damn well meant it. you've read way too much into the one sentence in my post and i resent being the target of your sermon.

lighten up.

Quote from: zemry on May 01, 2007, 05:09PMThe Howard University Trombone Ensemble performs "Lassus Trombone" and "Just a Closer Walk with Thee" during their Noon Recital in the Gallery Lounge.

Just a Closer Walk with Thee is how we begin or end many of our trombone quartet performances. There is something very satisfying about the range/suitability for trombone voicings, as well as a great melody. I like how these guys play with a rythm section (not usually available to us up here on the fringes of civilization).

Quote from: Graham Martin on May 02, 2007, 07:41PMI have posted this one previously but here is a YouTube of a somewhat younger Roy Williams with the mainstream-jazz-playing Alex Welsh Band - they were originally called the Alex Welsh Dixielanders. Sorry, it happens to be from Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEN5o8-q-fg

That was a beautiful solo----great technique and tone, and it falls within the "bread and butter" range for trombonists. What is difficult he makes sound as if it is the smoothest and easiest thing in the world.

Quotegraham/erling,

jeez guys, just because i got a small chuckle out of that band's name now i'm a racist, musically ignorant no-playing-mother-******? 

please. you don't know me.

i said the playing was good and i damn well meant it. you've read way too much into the one sentence in my post and i resent being the target of your sermon.

lighten up.

Obviously Grah and I didn't know you. Obviously a lot of people are ignorant about the European jazz scene of the fifties/sixties . . . and beyond. Obviously someone should try and remedy that. Obviously someone in the know like our esteemed Grah. Obviously not being a personal attack - at least as I read it (read into it?)
Lighten up? indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUMh3MENz84

Quote from: Quicksliver623 on May 03, 2007, 03:29PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUMh3MENz84
Dana Leong is EVERYWHERE!  He even shows up randomly to play in people's houses.   I like the bone player on the right. 

Roy Williams is indeed a fine and outstanding player Grah. When I viewed the
"Wolverine Blues" video I immediately thought of the Ed Hubble (tbn) rendition I recently listened to. Ed is another fabulous player, completely underrated IMO.

By the way, I recently found a "room" on Paltalk.com in which a few of us shared the audio of a few of our favorites. I was pleased to hear two presentations of the tune "Aunt Hagar's Blues" in the room. One was L.Armstrong, with vocal, and the other was Jack Teagarden. The latter was a rare appearance of Teagarden and Davison in the same band.

Reason for mentioning this is that many of us might find Paltalk.com a convenient place to share sounds. If only we could know in advance that a room was going to be open.

Lately I have been going nuts listening to Vic Dickenson and Ed Hubble together with the WGJB. Matter of fact it was recorded live in England @1970. Absolutely fabulous music. Those guys in WGJB were at the utter top of their game.

As to your Brookmeyer with Gerry Mulligan clip. I liked going back to that genre again. At one time I came close to following Brookmeyer, Alas, the "draw" to Swing/Dixie turned out to be the stronger. Bob's few albums with Stan Getz back then were big favorites of mine. The quintets.

Quote from: Graham Martin on Apr 29, 2007, 11:19PMBritish top trombonist Roy Williams in Dixieland mode, guesting with The Harlem Ramblers in Switzerland 1999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nek5qW0dEX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYp23iDtoJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDmQzka_E00

I am not sure if this Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Bob Brookmeyer has been put up previously:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7AWpoy68Us

Quote from: DaveAshley on May 03, 2007, 03:44PMDana Leong is EVERYWHERE!  He even shows up randomly to play in people's houses.   I like the bone player on the right. 

Thanks for this one, Dave, as I haven't heard much Noah Bless, the guy I think you're talking about.  Some friends have been telling me I need to check him out, and here you go.

I haven't found any Dana that I connect with - can you suggest some?  I'm hopeful for some musical goods that catch up with his packaging and web site, no dis intended.....just want to hear it.

Best,

Quote from: Quicksliver623 on May 03, 2007, 03:29PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUMh3MENz84

That music gives the impression it is pretty easy to blow on. Is it
called "Salsa" or "Latin Jazz?". Educate me please.

Quote from: ctingle on May 03, 2007, 04:06PMI haven't found any Dana that I connect with - can you suggest some?  I'm hopeful for some musical goods that catch up with his packaging and web site, no dis intended.....just want to hear it.
I'm with you.  I'm sure the best is yet to come with him, though.  He's obviously very motivated. More power to him!

Quote from: DaveAshley on May 03, 2007, 03:44PMDana Leong is EVERYWHERE!  He even shows up randomly to play in people's houses.   I like the bone player on the right. 
that must have been some party!

the other clips from it are just as good as that one.

especially this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJdur_FeFTE

dana has a killer solo on that one.

he's been my new favorite trombone player since i stumbled across his stuff on you tube/myspace and i think it's gonna stay that way!

more dana with conrad herwig and some other killer latin style musicians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtMx02bNrY

Quote from: bassclef on May 03, 2007, 05:50PMmore dana with conrad herwig and some other killer latin style musicians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtMx02bNrY

THanks for the link----I'm impressed with how good trombones sound with latin music. Bueno.

Elliot Mason blowin' over Joe Henderson's tune "Inner Urge".....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxBJo46XKA

Who's the player? (looks like he's playing a Conn 88)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFsyyi5yVUo&mode=related&search=

I'd be happy to be half as good....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPhIVdQHCA&mode=related&search=

More Watrous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHzCQIvMyo

Thanks, Dave. That's nice!!

Quote from: DaveAshley on Jun 02, 2007, 09:27PMMore Watrous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHzCQIvMyo

That's when Watrous was a rock star to me - playing and hanging with anyone on the planet, leading his big band, winning polls....making the bone seem like a romantic and noble endeavor!

Thanks for the link, Dave....

Too bad he couldn't find any decent sidemen for that gig.

Quote from: ctingle on May 03, 2007, 04:06PMThanks for this one, Dave, as I haven't heard much Noah Bless, the guy I think you're talking about.  Some friends have been telling me I need to check him out, and here you go.

I haven't found any Dana that I connect with - can you suggest some?  I'm hopeful for some musical goods that catch up with his packaging and web site, no dis intended.....just want to hear it.

Best,


Both Dana and Noah are fine players and really nice !!!!!!!!!

I have had the opportunity to work with Dana a few years back on a recording session.

A pleasure to sit next to him.


Noah and I where at Manhattan School of Music where he was a couple of years ahead of me.

Definitely check him out as well.

I did a nonet rehearsal with Noah some months ago.  The pianist had to leave early so....no problem...Noah slid over and played the last tune on piano.  That explained everything about why I enjoy Noah's approach so much.  As Slide always says, "you have to learn the piano....everything is at the piano."  Noah is absolutely connected to the music by way of the trombone and not simply connected to the trombone.  That's my man.  Check him out. 

DG

weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mut_49Uv5MM&mode=related&search=

Quote from: nwabone on Aug 01, 2007, 12:08PM
weird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mut_49Uv5MM&mode=related&search=

FINALLY!!!

Some real trombone stuff.

S.

Quote from: sabutin on Aug 01, 2007, 12:18PMFINALLY!!!

Some real trombone stuff.

S.

Man, what a good way to practice your slide technique!

Rich

funny...

What do they do for an encore?

Quote: What do they do for an encore? 

That's below the belt, Marty!

Quote from: Erling on Aug 02, 2007, 05:56AMQuote: What do they do for an encore? 

That's below the belt, Marty!
I didn't think it was worse than the original "Wierd" remark.

James Morrison with Ian Cooper:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWb4K4HgfqE

WOW! Tons of IU trombone choir stuff here:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C377DB9420D62AF7

Thanks for the links. One has to wonder, why they don't fix the sync problem at YouTube.

Quoteweird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mut_49Uv5MM&mode=related&search=

FINALLY!!!

Some real trombone stuff.

S.


Thats some funny stuff.

So THATS why the Japs dig trombone. I always suspected they had good taste.

I was just wondering about the coincidence of the Japanese act being followed by James Morrison and Ian Cooper. Two similar music hall (vaudeville) acts maybe?

Just joking. I have a great deal of respect for Ian and James, who are two of the very few pro jazz musicians who continue to tour the length and breadth of Australia. Except, I suspect James gets paid a lot more due to his Yamaha sponsorship.

I have to admit that my first trombone hero was Chris Barber, followed closely by Kid Ory; when I realized where much of Barber's style came from. But then I made a big shift to Cutty Cutshall and Trummy Young after both toured the U.K.

Cutty toured with Eddie Condon's band, the personnel of which was very close to these couple of YouTubes. In fact this is just about my alltime favourite Dixieland frontline - Wild Bill Davison (trumpet), Ed Hall (clarinet) and Cutty Cutshall (trombone). Cutty plays some lovely ensemble work and his solos are excellent. The rhythm section is pretty good also but it is somewhat of surprise to see Willy The Lion Smith playing with the band.

Blue And Broken Hearted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DH3cYk9q7A

Royal Garden Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62VNUWZXD58

Is this guy really playing with a cornet? 

Quote from: cozzagiorgi on Aug 16, 2007, 04:11AMIs this guy really playing with a cornet? 

Yes.

Isn't that a bit strange in a jazz combo?

Quote from: cozzagiorgi on Aug 16, 2007, 06:30AMIsn't that a bit strange in a jazz combo?

Not really. Cornet was a lot more prevalent up until maybe the 1930's.

What's wrong with playing the cornet in a jazz combo?

It never did Bix Beiderbecke any harm.

http://www.redhotjazz.com/bix.html

Although, of course, Bix did himself a great deal of harm and died at the age of 28.

Yup! My kind of jazz.

Thoughts: Some of the less knowledgeable watching the video probably would mistake Cutty for Teagarden. The famous Sy Oliver arrangement of "Kiss To Build A Dream On" with Louis's vocal was recorded with Cutty Cutshall, and not the regular with Armstrong's group- Jack Teagarden.
Cutshall did an excellent job on this famous recording, and when I compare it to Teagarden's version on the sound track of the movie containing the number, I have to say Jack's is somewhat put in the shade by Cutty's.

George Wettling is , in my book, largely responsible for the success of the whole genre of what I call "Condon style" jazz. It is Wettlings unfailing skill that propels this unique music IMO.
http://myspace.com/freemarty

Quote from: Graham Martin on Aug 16, 2007, 03:13AMI have to admit that my first trombone hero was Chris Barber, followed closely by Kid Ory; when I realized where much of Barber's style came from. But then I made a big shift to Cutty Cutshall and Trummy Young after both toured the U.K.

Cutty toured with Eddie Condon's band, the personnel of which was very close to these couple of YouTubes. In fact this is just about my alltime favourite Dixieland frontline - Wild Bill Davison (trumpet), Ed Hall (clarinet) and Cutty Cutshall (trombone). Cutty plays some lovely ensemble work and his solos are excellent. The rhythm section is pretty good also but it is somewhat of surprise to see Willy The Lion Smith playing with the band.

Blue And Broken Hearted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DH3cYk9q7A

Royal Garden Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62VNUWZXD58

Quote from: cozzagiorgi on Aug 16, 2007, 04:11AMIs this guy really playing with a cornet? 

Louis Armstrong played a cornet originally and they are still very popular in Dixieland bands today. Two of the guys I play with use long-horn cornets. Plus, you just can't get as 'dirty' as Wild Bill does if you play trumpet.

Quote from: marty nichols on Aug 16, 2007, 08:44AMYup! My kind of jazz.

Thoughts: Some of the less knowledgeable watching the video probably would mistake Cutty for Teagarden. The famous Sy Oliver arrangement of "Kiss To Build A Dream On" with Louis's vocal was recorded with Cutty Cutshall, and not the regular with Armstrong's group- Jack Teagarden.
Cutshall did an excellent job on this famous recording, and when I compare it to Teagarden's version on the sound track of the movie containing the number, I have to say Jack's is somewhat put in the shade by Cutty's.

George Wettling is , in my book, largely responsible for the success of the whole genre of what I call "Condon style" jazz. It is Wettlings unfailing skill that propels this unique music IMO.
http://myspace.com/freemarty
Cutty was for a long time one of the two trombonists in the Benny Goodman Orch, the other being Lou McGarity. Both spent a lot of time hanging around with Eddie Condon after the collapse of the big band era.

George Wettling was definitely my favourite Condon drummer from the 1950s and played the best fills and four bar tags I have ever heard. Not to forget Krupa of course, who was also a Chicagoan and very similar in style when playing with small groups. 

At the beginning of this, you get to watch me!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QBoK1B3wpm0

I will have videos up of my Yellowstone Jazz Camp performances soon.