What are some horns you will never sell?

User avatar
slipmo
Posts: 231
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:38 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Contact:

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by slipmo »

Oslide wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:45 pm
slipmo wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:57 pm I'd never part with my 1938 Conn 66H
That must be an exceptional horn! C'mon, give us a bit more... :o
Here's a blurb about it:
The Conn 66H is an interesting trombone. The 66H was produced from 1920 and discontinued in 1925. The specifications are .547” bore medium bass with rotary valve to F, tuning in the bell. My instrument was built in 1938-1940 and is marked 66H Spec on both the bell and slide section. The entire instrument is built from either red brass or gold brass and you will see the variations in material in the photo. The instrument is nearly identical to the Conn 88H in every way. The tuning slide, hand slide and bell taper is the same as my later examples of 88Hs (and are even interchangeable), leading me to believe that this instrument is perhaps one of the earliest examples of what would become the modern 88H. As the 88H was not produced officially until 1954, perhaps the 66H was the closest thing to these specifications in the Conn archives and this instrument was stamped as such. I also have a 14H in my collection, which is the same as a 66H but with TIS.
User avatar
Backbone
Posts: 149
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:46 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Backbone »

mrdeacon wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:53 pm I have some regrets... Horns I've traded and sold in the past... But now I've got some horns I'll never part with!

Do you guys have any horns you'll never sell no matter how destitute you are?

Here are my two basses I'll never sell!

The top is a Holton 169 I just picked up from Chris Stearn. (Chris the 60h is almost done!) It has an early TR180 slide and indy Brasslab valves. F/bG tuning.

The bottom is a full custom Minick bass trombone I've posted about before! J bend tuning slide, 9 1/4" Gold Brass wide throat style bell, single-bore slide. The original valves were in rough shape and I had John Sandhagen replace them with Olsen rotors! Plays like a Bach 50B and a 62H had a baby.

Image

Granted... I might get the itch and trade the Minick one day for something equally cool but that Holton is never going away!

I'm excited to play these horns! And post about them :pant:
On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?
User avatar
HawaiiTromboneGuy
Posts: 760
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:37 am
Location: Honolulu, HI

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by HawaiiTromboneGuy »

I was finally able to complete my set of Burbank Williams trombones the other week by purchasing the Model 7. I was always close, but was always missing one at any given time to complete the set.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Drew A.
Professional bum.
mrdeacon
Posts: 974
Joined: Tue May 08, 2018 2:05 am
Location: Los Angeles, California

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by mrdeacon »

Backbone wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:57 pm On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?
The horn uses the original 169 tuning slide and the valve section is from a Brasslab commissioned Bach 50B valve set. I assume the neckpipe bit is a hand drawn Chuck piece. Whatever it is it plays well!

Regretablly the only "original" parts to the horn are the 169 tuning slide and 169 bell (which is actually a true 9 1/2"' bell!). The original horn was pretty trashed so the Brasslab valve section was grafted on and the handslide is from a very early TR180.

I've been told the original horn also has provenance from one of my all time favorite bass trombone players!!! Even if the provenance is incorrect I'm still estactic to own this horn. The provenance is just the cherry on top!
Rath R1 2000s, Elliott XT
Rath R3 2000s, Elliott XT
Rath R9 2000s, Elliott LB
Minick Bass Trombone 1980s, Elliott LB
User avatar
harrisonreed
Posts: 4714
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:18 pm
Location: Fort Riley, Kansas
Contact:

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by harrisonreed »

My Eastlake 88HT-CL apparently. I want to. Just never seem to do it.
User avatar
Backbone
Posts: 149
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:46 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Backbone »

mrdeacon wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:45 pm
Backbone wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:57 pm On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?
The horn uses the original 169 tuning slide and the valve section is from a Brasslab commissioned Bach 50B valve set. I assume the neckpipe bit is a hand drawn Chuck piece. Whatever it is it plays well!

Regretablly the only "original" parts to the horn are the 169 tuning slide and 169 bell (which is actually a true 9 1/2"' bell!). The original horn was pretty trashed so the Brasslab valve section was grafted on and the handslide is from a very early TR180.

I've been told the original horn also has provenance from one of my all time favorite bass trombone players!!! Even if the provenance is incorrect I'm still estactic to own this horn. The provenance is just the cherry on top!
Thanks for the information. I am rolling around the idea to modify my 181 with another tuning slide while changing the 'zig-zagged' neck pipe to a straight one. Just imagine the normal 181 wrap but without the dip inward coming out of the Gb valve.
User avatar
noordinaryjoe
Posts: 95
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:01 am
Location: Northeast PA

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by noordinaryjoe »

A Prayer:
"Lord, when I die please don't let my wife sell my trombones for what I *told* her I paid for them."

(not actually my situation, but this makes me chuckle)
Yamaha YBL-612R II
YSL-651
Schiller Heritage Bb/C (YSL-350C clone)
Pirate
User avatar
EOlson9
Posts: 126
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:34 pm
Location: La Crosse, WI

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by EOlson9 »

Can't see myself selling my 62H with a Butler carbon slide. Also have a King 2125f I got from greenbean about a year and a half ago that is absolutely amazing sounding horn. Eventually gonna put an Olsen rotor and a bit of more open wrap on it.
Baritone Horn, Winona Brass Band
Euphonium La Crosse Concert Band
Euphonium, Tuba, Westby City Band
OldWetOneCanoli
Posts: 19
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:34 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by OldWetOneCanoli »

My 88H. My parents bought me this horn in H.S. It has sentimental value that I could not put a price on, and would never be realized in a sale.
-----0-----
Jeff Morris

The Boneyard:
Bach 36
Bach 42B "Corporation" (~1980)
Conn 18H Coprion (55X,XXX)
Conn 88H (~1976)
D.E. Getzen Caravelle (beater horn)
Olds Ambassador
Fruitysloth
Posts: 284
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:28 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Fruitysloth »

A very close friend and near mentor of mine in college was our 2nd trumpet player in the top jazz band. He taught me about playing with attitude and owning what you knew how to play, and was so charismatic on stage. Throughout our years, I made it into the top jazz band, and later joined a funk group he was a part of. This summer, he and his wife moved to Oregon, and he had lent me his Edwards trumpet that he had as a backup. He mentioned wanting to screw around on a sousaphone, and I had purchased an old plexiglass one a few months before, and I jokingly said, "you wanna trade that Edwards for my sousa" and he got this crazy look in his eye. He said he had to make some money off the horn, otherwise his wife would kill him, so he asked for $500 and the sousa, to which I quickly agreed. It's an amazing trumpet, and several pros in the area have tried to purchase it from me, and I've always politely declined, but have offered to let them use it for a gig in the area if they'd like. It's more of the memories of that close friend that make me keep the horn, and I'm going to do everything in my power to keep it, until someone comes along who I know would embody the same things my friend embodies in his music. I'll post a pic here sometime soon!
Trombone Forum User "Jhungate96"
modelerdc
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by modelerdc »

I have a Shires vintage Elkhart with hand engraved bell which for me is just perfect. I like the X tuning slide and oddly a King 4G mouthpiece. My favorite bass is a Shires Q with rotors, yellow bell and a custom C tuning slide. The only horn I used to have and regret selling is a Conn Greenhoe 62H, if I ever come by another I won’t let it go!
HermanGerman
Posts: 127
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:57 am

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by HermanGerman »

The last horn I bought...until I buy a new one.
Pezza
Posts: 139
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:30 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Pezza »

My grandfathers old Buescher Truetone. Too small for me, & doesn't really blend with modern horns, but it'll never go.
Also my King 5B. Due to medical reasons it's the only trom that works for me on bass. Unless I can somehow get my hands on a Bach 45!
Am I a trombone player who plays euphonium, or a euphonium player who plays trombone? :idk:
CarlVicVogel
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:35 pm
Location: Joisey

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by CarlVicVogel »

My silver plate Bach 42BO (early production) is one I would never sell. it's easy to play and has a rather bright sound for a 42. It just fits me and my personality.

However, it's slightly newer brother, a Bach 42BO in lacquer will probably be sold some day. It's plays very open with a huge sound! But, at my age and and the venues I play in, it can become overkill. A perfect Mahler horn that received excellent reviews from my son's music conservatory professor. I swear it plays as open as my bass trombone!
Bach two 42BO's (silver & lacquer)
Bach LT16M (inspired by Bill Watrous)
Holton TR-181 Bass
King 3B
Yamaha 354 Tenor (early production)
Yamaha 321 Euphonium
Conn Baritone (really friggin' old) :lol:
User avatar
Cotboneman
Posts: 201
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:16 pm
Location: Tucson, AZ
Contact:

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Cotboneman »

The horn that I am certain I will never sell is my Getzen 1062FD dependent bass, purchased way back in 1998. It was my principal horn for almost 22 years, until I retired it to backup status, replacing it with my Bach 50AF3. My Getzen was becoming someone long in the tooth, with noisy linkages, acid bleed under the lacquer in some spots, no lacquer in other places, a stress cracked main tuning slide, and chrome plating wear on the main slide near the stockings. Not to mention 20 plus years of mute dings. But the horn had such great focused tone, as well as terrific response that I opted to save it rather than sell it. I had Jim Huwe at Ward-Brodt music in Wisconsin correct all of the problems, then strip the finish and re-finish in brushed satin. It came out beautifully. It has become my permanent backup. It's at home on pops concerts for sure, or when the other players in the orchestra section are not playing their Bach large bores.
User avatar
Sander
Posts: 37
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:49 am
Location: Netherlands
Contact:

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Sander »

So, I've been able to buy a 48H Connstellation around 2 years ago.
Battered slide, with wear on the inners. But plays a dream, super smooth and super clear sound.

Even the 48H I've bought in showroom state a year after didn't play as well and I've parted with that already again.

Also my Rath R2 with redbrass bell is staying to never leave. (unless a ridiculous offer comes by)

Next to that my beater sousaphone, a Conn 36k, worn and repaired with some boat grade fiberglass. Nobody will ever pay for that thing what I've put in or had joy of, so that's staying as well.

The rest, I can't imagine cramping to hold on to for the rest of my life tbh
Sander
User avatar
jsimmon
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:43 pm
Location: Wakefield RI

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by jsimmon »

I have a 1932 Conn 44H all original - mouthpiece - case - even has orig. cleaning rod and lyre - fantastic art deco engraving with the satyr - it has really modern features for its day - like bell and slide locks - in bell tuning and full rounded crooks - it's really heavy but that being said it plays really well - I'll have to pass that one on to someone who cares !
haoscv
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:55 pm

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by haoscv »

Probably my sousaphone and euphonium!

Got such a killer deal that will never come up again.

On the fence about my YBL-822G, need to play in an ensemble with it to figure out if I like it or not.
Macbone1
Posts: 349
Joined: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:17 pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by Macbone1 »

I'm open minded on all of them (money talks!) but it would be hard to part with my King Jiggs Whigham 2B. So well made and such fun to play. Jiggs really got King to make something special.

Another related and interesting thread could be horns that just WON'T sell even though they are in excellent condition and play well. I could add to THAT discussion.
King Jiggs 2BL
Olds Opera
Besson Sovereign Bb/F bass
Holton bass trumpet
B&H Imperial shepherd's crook cornet
MBone1968
Posts: 3
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:46 am

Re: What are some horns you will never sell?

Post by MBone1968 »

AWESOME !!! I thought I was only one with a 20H with a 2B Slide Crook put on it! The 20H is a real steal for the money if you can find one.
Post Reply

Return to “Instruments”