Of course - for your core professional tools. But at the risk of drifting off-topic, I find this interesting within the context of having a larger stable - or, say, compared to the classic cars...
Chris makes some very solid points. It really does not matter "what brand" or "what model" you play. If you find something that creates magic for you, consider yourself very fortunate and go with it! It is of no consequence what others think of your equipment. Just enjoy that special connection you have with the instrument and make great music!FOSSIL wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:38 am What is a dream horn ? For me it must have feel, sound and playability. When I pick it up and play that first note, it needs to feel 'wow'....every day, month and year. It needs to help me get to the sound I want to make, and one that fits with the people I work with. It needs to be easy to play with facility all over the range.
There's a lot of very expensive instruments out there that don't tick those boxes. I have six bass instruments that tick the boxes....that's stupidly lucky...or greedy. There are two uber examples that are beyond what I would have thought possible....again , I'm very lucky.
What are they ? There's no point in saying....they are not for sale and you can't buy something the same...and other people might hate them.
Chris
Since I already have a Gen 2 62H, I want the DG for tighter sound for pit orchestras and such.Crazy4Tbone86 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:55 am I find this thread rather fascinating. The vast majority of contributors are favoring or "dreaming" of bass trombones with the more narrow tapers like Kings and Conns. I know that many people love the older Conns, but I am surprised to see that the Kings have such a following. I am not able to get my "ideal bass trombone sound" on those models....they play too bright for me.
I favor a broader sound that requires a wider-taper bell....of the Bach 50 tradition. Thus, my dream horn is something that I am in the process of collecting parts to build. It will probably look something like this: Shires BII 7GM bell, Shires C tuning slide (might end up being a seamed tuning slide), double Instrument Innovations axials, and a .562-.578 dual bore slide (might end up being similar to the Shires Bollinger slide).
I am surprised that there have not been more people "dreaming" of a bass trombone that has a broader taper bell. For me, some of it might be sound concept......I probably have a different bass trombone sound that I am trying to achieve. A bigger part of it is that I require larger equipment in order to achieve a bass trombone sound. If others can achieve the same sound that I seeking on more compact equipment.....kudos to them!
It may be a bird's nest, but it's still a dependent horn! I don't have any pictures of the levers specifically, but the 2nd valve lever overlaps the first. You can go from two valves to one, but not the other way around- no rollers or anything.WGWTR180 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:30 am Not to question your point about your 185 but I'm a bit confused. As the 185 was available as either a single valve instrument OR with the bird's nest plug in did someone before you make this into a dependent trigger setup? Any chance you have a pic of the horn? ALWAYS curious when someone has one that's unique. Thanks.
No spoilers!
I know what you mean. I have two 185. One has been split and is F/D and the other is as the original with a hopeless dependant setup. You have to be an acrobat with your thumb to go from one valve to two valves and vice versa. I think this horn solved the e-pull problem, but was not really designed with heavy trigger work in mind. If you plan everything and avoid all fast switches from one to two valves then the horn becomes better. My original is in F/Eb and I think this is better in this case because you can then play all notes on either one or two valves and thus cover most passages. In combination with false tones I have found that the big band parts can be played more easy. It is then a better option than a single for sure but for modern bigband charts the triggers need to be split. I can see why you want that doneBurgerbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:17 amIt may be a bird's nest, but it's still a dependent horn! I don't have any pictures of the levers specifically, but the 2nd valve lever overlaps the first. You can go from two valves to one, but not the other way around- no rollers or anything.WGWTR180 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:30 am Not to question your point about your 185 but I'm a bit confused. As the 185 was available as either a single valve instrument OR with the bird's nest plug in did someone before you make this into a dependent trigger setup? Any chance you have a pic of the horn? ALWAYS curious when someone has one that's unique. Thanks.
No spoilers!
These Holton basses sound gorgeous.
Just assuming upfront that he won't hang on to it longterm
Thanks Aiden! All of the others I've seen have already been converted to split triggers. And sorry I knew it was dependent-hadn't had enough coffee before typing!!! Looks great. Enjoy!!Burgerbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:17 amIt may be a bird's nest, but it's still a dependent horn! I don't have any pictures of the levers specifically, but the 2nd valve lever overlaps the first. You can go from two valves to one, but not the other way around- no rollers or anything.WGWTR180 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:30 am Not to question your point about your 185 but I'm a bit confused. As the 185 was available as either a single valve instrument OR with the bird's nest plug in did someone before you make this into a dependent trigger setup? Any chance you have a pic of the horn? ALWAYS curious when someone has one that's unique. Thanks.
No spoilers!
Well I got a new Edwards B502 AR and it's become my main horn so I have to amend the above answer.fwbassbone wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:06 pm I would have to say the Greenhoe GB5-3G that is my main horn now.
I'm with you on that one. I have a 25 year old Getzen 1062 that is like that old coat with holes that we all have in our closets, but fits great and keeps us so warm. Now I've modernized with a Bach 50AF , but I'm about to have the Getzen restored, because it's been that good over the years.
