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New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:04 pm
by Steve335
This sounds interesting, the new DE Sym mouthpiece range.
http://dougelliottmouthpieces.com/tenortrb.html
Has anyone tried one yet?
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:12 pm
by norbie2018
Heavier cup? More like Greg black? Do tell.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:08 pm
by Burgerbob
Hmmm... a 104N/G/G8 may be in the cards
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:35 pm
by mrdeacon
For what it's worth... Doug's new "regular" Star cup are fantastic. Doug tweaked the tenor cup ever so slightly and I think they're better than his old design! The bass star cups are also slightly heavier along with the tweaks.
I'm sure the Symphony series is great but it already sounds too heavy for me haha
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:36 pm
by Doug Elliott
Developed in recent months for Aaron Lavere. He primarily uses a 103, H, H10
I'm using it myself right now (SYM mN104, G, G9), what little I play my .547, but I'm totally comfortable playing gigs on it even with no practice on that horn.
The SYM series is intended for the 103 to 106 range of rim sizes, but I will probably add a 102 at some point. So far I am making my standard rim shape, and medium-Narrow which is thinner but not as thin as my Narrow shape.
As with everything I make, the rim and cup need to be the same series, not interchangeable with anything else.
I will have just a few with me at the ATW this week.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:50 pm
by norbie2018
What makes the Sym series different from the XT series?
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:54 pm
by FullPedalTrombonist
I was just about to ask about the SYM series since I saw it on the site. I love all the tweaking and fine tuning of Doug’s pieces. I don’t play large tenor nearly enough for me to think about equipment again. I like my XT setup with both .547 and .562 tenors first which I also use an old 1-1/2G... so maybe I’ll have a look if I can sneak it into my small bass kit. But I play that pretty seldom, too.
After some leadpipe work on some small horns I may be ordering a C+*, though.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:21 pm
by MTbassbone
Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:36 pm
Developed in recent months for Aaron Lavere. He primarily uses a 103, H, H10
I'm using it myself right now (SYM mN104, G, G9), what little I play my .547, but I'm totally comfortable playing gigs on it even with no practice on that horn.
The SYM series is intended for the 103 to 106 range of rim sizes, but I will probably add a 102 at some point. So far I am making my standard rim shape, and medium-Narrow which is thinner but not as thin as my Narrow shape.
As with everything I make, the rim and cup need to be the same series, not interchangeable with anything else.
I will have just a few with me at the ATW this week.
How is it different than the XT series?
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:43 pm
by Doug Elliott
Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:51 pm
by hyperbolica
Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:43 pm
Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.
...which gives the result of...
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:08 pm
by Doug Elliott
More open, bigger sound, more potential volume without getting too bright or out of control. But still easy to play as my stuff always is.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:11 pm
by Neo Bri
I like mine very, very much. Been playing it a lot. Sounds fantastic and huge! Played on a Shires Tru-bore and a Getzen 3047AF.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:48 am
by funkhoss
Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:43 pm
Bass blank, bass threads, overall a little bigger.
How does the SYM series compare to the EUPH series? Which has the larger interface diameter?
-Funkhoss
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:26 am
by Doug Elliott
They are very similar but not the same. SYM is a hair smaller interface.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 am
by norbie2018
Does a bass blank provide more mass when compared to the XT blank?
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:17 am
by Doug Elliott
Larger diameter threads, so yes.
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:29 pm
by hornbuilder
Darn it Doug!! Now I'm going to have to give you "more" of my money!!!
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Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:52 pm
by Doug Elliott
I'll trade you a mouthpiece for a horn!
Re: New DE Sym
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:58 am
by hornbuilder
Seems fair. I have an old Conn 6H....
