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I’m bored. And when I’m bored, my brain starts doing funny things. If you have a bass trombone that takes screw in leadpipes, could you try .547 leadpipes in it? What would it hurt, other than fitting a tiny bit looser? Some heavy tuning slide grease would make up the difference in bore. Just an odd thought. Anyone ever try that?

I'll just go ahead and say... no.

You could do it, but it doesn't work very well. I tried it once for fun and it was a loose fit but technically, it played. Wasn't very easy to play especially in the low register.

Yeah. I pulled mine out and tried it. Felt weird. Horn didn’t want to speak well. But hey, you never know until you try!

Just tried a Shires .547 1 and 3 leadpipe and they don't play like a bass pipe would in a bass, but they still function and all the ranges speak but its much tighter then what I'm used to. (I use a B3/ B3SS)

If you want a real trip, put a 508 or smaller pipe in a 562 slide!

Not a leadpipe , but years ago I put a Bach 7 with a Bass shank in my 72H - SCREAMER !! the upper range was sick and powerful

The whole idea of a leadpipe is a smooth transition from the mouthpiece bore to the main bore of the instrument, so one that is not properly sized will have a big "step" at the end. Not really sure there is any benefit. It won't make the horn play like a .547 bore horn.

I have always wondered if there are leadpipes made specifically for playing a large tenor with a 562 slide. I know people do it. Do they just use a bass leadpipe?

Kdanielsen wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 6:48 pm I have always wondered if there are leadpipes made specifically for playing a large tenor with a 562 slide. I know people do it. Do they just use a bass leadpipe?

the Bach 50 leadpipe is not especially large or open (maybe like a Shires 1.5 ish, but obviously different), so the Bach horns using the LT50 slide just use that. Some of them have amazing high registers.

I put a Brasslab Hartz MV42 hvy wt leadpipe in my 50 slide and it worked fine.
Sounded and felt good.
I expanded the end so that it was a firm fit in slide tube.
It won't work very well if you don't do that.

The Kanstul /Hornguys GR2 and Herrick C pipes are tighter with a smaller venturi and would be Great if You want a more tenory sound out of a bass slide.. I tried a Remington pipe in a 562 slide. Did not work well but i suspect that is mainly because of the gap at the end of the leadpipe being bigger into the slide..

You ever tried putting a tuba mouthpiece in a trombone? That is a fun experiment.

BurckhardtS wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 3:47 pm You ever tried putting a tuba mouthpiece in a trombone? That is a fun experiment.

I did in an attempt to sound like a Cimbasso for a Verdi opera overture (Nabucco). My pitch above the bass staff was incredibly flat, but the sound was more tuba-like without actually playing a tuba.

I have done that. Years ago when I had fewer toys my tenor slide got hurt and I needed to use my bass slide on my 547. It worked ok. Better then not playing.

An oddity. My small bore has a valve on it that is the Edwards 547 size.
So I can put my 500/508 slide on my 547 horn and my 562 bass.
The bass is silly
The 500/508 slide on the 547 horn plays like (but better) then some of the German horns I have tried that are small bore with the big bell. I don't like it, but it works.

My guess is that things that are odd work.....almost.

I came across this video of Gerry Pagano discussing his Edwards 'small bass' in which he uses a 0.547" leadpipe in his single bore 0.562" slide. It seems to work for him just fine. He mentions it about 30sec into the video.

LeoInFL wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:33 pm I came across this video of Gerry Pagano discussing his Edwards 'small bass' in which he uses a 0.547" leadpipe in his single bore 0.562" slide. It seems to work for him just fine. He mentions it about 30sec into the video.

Hi.

I have a dual bore Edwards bass slide.

Will an Edwards .547" tenor leadpipe screw in?

Are the Edwards bass and tenor leadpipe threads the same?

Thanks,
Steve.