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How does the Wick 10CS pair up with a 500 bore Conn 6H? Is it closer to a bach 7C? Or 6 3/4?

Hmm. Published spec of Wick 10CS is closer to a 6¾C, but feels to me more like a 7C. But that's just me, after a very quick comparison.

Which 10cs? The original is much more an 11c size/feel the new design is more towards the 7c feel

the 10 CS has a bigger throat (6,24mm) and a bigger cup (25,2mm).Feels more open blowing than comparable Bach.
Sounds a bit darker.

I play a 6H and I tried a 10cs and a 7 cs. The 7 works better for me, and for how I want to sound, but the 10cs would work. I could loan you mine, if you want to try it out with your horn.

Shumanbean wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:39 am I play a 6H and I tried a 10cs and a 7 cs. The 7 works better for me, and for how I want to sound, but the 10cs would work. I could loan you mine, if you want to try it out with your horn.

Thank u, bro

The original 10CS was a lot smaller than the current incarnation and for my money a much better mouthpiece.
Best guess is that Mr Wick has switched manufacturers several times over the years and specs have wandered and not in a good way.

BellEnd

Bellend, I don't know so much about old wicks, but I get how the current 10cs seems kind of big. Slydeflex, I tried it again tonight, and it was okay, but I really like the 7cs I have: my sound is kind of dark with it, and feels open. High range is there, but weak on my part because I'm coming back after thirty years off. I'm really gone on it. You should consider one.

I appreciate my 6h more daily. What a great horn, eh? It has a deep deep soul.

So, let me know if you want to try the mouthpiece out. It's just going to sit on the shelf.

Daniel

I played a 10CS for about 2 years with a 2B Liberty. I liked it. I didn't love it. I switched to my Rath R1 with the same mouthpiece. again, liked, not loved. I moved to the 12CS and found that my face loved it much more. It just did more of what I wanted easier.

None of the Wick pieces really feel like the Bach mouthpieces in terms of blow, in my opinion. The throats are all wildly different. I like the 7CS the best out of all of them; it was designed for a Bach 34 and indeed works best in my similar Bach 36. The new 10CS rim feels bigger than most 6 3/4 rims to me, smaller than most 6 1/2 rims. It just doesn't "match" with any of my horns in a balanced way.

I agree with Bellend though, if I was going to buy another Wick it would be of the older "small font" variety.

As I mentioned on another post Denis redesigned his mouthpieces in the mid 1990's. And the originals had different rim shapes and the 10cs was an 11c sized piece

As I recall, the10CS was originally designed as an alto mouthpiece. To me it feels more like a shallow larger mouthpiece than an 11C, which feels small and blows tighter. It would work fine on a .500 bore horn if that’s the feel you like.

MikeS wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:51 am As I recall, the10CS was originally designed as an alto mouthpiece. To me it feels more like a shallow larger mouthpiece than an 11C, which feels small and blows tighter. It would work fine on a .500 bore horn if that’s the feel you like.

It was made for Don Lusher to use with the .500 bore sovereign and based on an old Bach 11c

Vegasbound wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:29 am

MikeS wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:51 am As I recall, the10CS was originally designed as an alto mouthpiece. To me it feels more like a shallow larger mouthpiece than an 11C, which feels small and blows tighter. It would work fine on a .500 bore horn if that’s the feel you like.

It was made for Don Lusher to use with the .500 bore sovereign and based on an old Bach 11c

I don’t doubt it, but I was going by this.

https://www.dansr.com/wick/resources/wh ... r-trombone

Well the originals are still a great 11c sized piece copied from an old Bach 11c, the new design is a totally different size and feel