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Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:56 am
by MTbassbone
Has anyone tried putting a 1052 slide on a 1062 bell section. Basically making the 1062 a single bore instead of a dual bore. Just curious. If so what was the outcome?

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:59 am
by BGuttman
At one time some dealers would allow you to buy either horn with either slide. Never played them myself so I can't comment on what happens.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:01 am
by Jimtrombone
Yes, that is the setup on my horn. It was like that when I bought it from another forum member. No concerns here, plays fine.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:04 am
by MTbassbone
I had inquired about getting a dependent Edwards CR-E valve section, but at the time it was not in the cards.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:02 pm
by Crazy4Tbone86
Slides are interchangeable. I have the opposite set-up. My 1052 has a dual-bore .562-578 Getzen slide and it works great.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:01 pm
by mrdeacon
Just a heads up there are actually two eras of Getzen slides. 90% of them are the newer ones with removable leadpipes and Conn tenons. The older preremovable pipe slides can sometimes be Bach tenons!

I have a older 90s Getzen 1062 that I used a stock Edwards slide in for a couple of years. No mods needed.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:41 pm
by Bach5G
An option might be an Edwards slide. You may have to swap out the tenant. Not a big deal.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:50 pm
by Crazy4Tbone86
It might be a big deal. Individual Edwards parts are very expensive. Before Edwards closed down in the spring for the pandemic, they quoted me a price of $100 for just the threaded collar to go on a leadpipe. I imagine a slide tenon could easily be $175.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:54 pm
by mrdeacon
Crazy4Tbone86 wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:50 pm It might be a big deal. Individual Edwards parts are very expensive. Before Edwards closed down in the spring for the pandemic, they quoted me a price of $100 for just the threaded collar to go on a leadpipe. I imagine a slide tenon could easily be $175.
Most Getzen horns use a different tenon than the Edwards horns. I think you can purchase Getzen parts from Allied if I'm not mistaken. Wayyyyy cheaper. A tech could also use a Conn tenon without too much difficultly and it'd be like a $15-$20 part.

I had a tech use a Conn tenon on a Bach 50B slide. Not too difficult of a job. But yes if you were to convert a Getzen slide to an Edwards tenon using an original Edwards part that'd be a huge pain and overly expensive.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:15 pm
by Bach5G
I did this years ago. I had a 1052 with a dual bore Eddie slide. Not difficult, not expensive, as I recall. My tech ordered the part.

Maybe a tech will weigh in.

Wouldn’t you be adding a Getzen tenon to an Eddie slide?

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:38 pm
by Crazy4Tbone86
Yes Bach5G,

I think I got that backwards. Adding a Getzen tenon to an Edwards slide would be the thing to do.....and the Getzen part would be a lot cheaper. Although......the Getzen tenons are shorter than the Edwards tenons. It would likely require some type of shim.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:47 pm
by Bach5G
I don’t remember there being an issue, but it was a long time ago.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:18 am
by Crazy4Tbone86
Your tech could have just trimmed off the extra inner slide tubing. That would make sense because pulling the inner slide brace closer to the bell section makes a bass trombone more ergonomic for most people.

Re: Getzen 1062 slide swap

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:04 pm
by elmsandr
Haven't looked at them together in a LONG time, but I am 95% certain that the threads/nut for the handslide retainer is in the exact same linear position between the Getzen Eterna/Custom horns and the Edwards horns. Just the taper rate of the handslide reciever is different. Yes the Getzen/Conn taper is shorter in length, but trimming that inner down a hair should not be difficult for a competent tech.

FWIW, I always preferred the 1062 with the 1052 slide. I can't do those Getzen/Edwards slides without the oversleeves.

Cheers,
Andy