Olds super recording trombone?

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Elow
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Olds super recording trombone?

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Anyone know if these were made or if there were only trumpet and cornet models. I think the concept was keeping the recording bell and changing the valve set on trumpets and corners so that could easily just transfer over to trombone but i’m not sure.
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Super and Recording were two different models.
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Elow wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 pm Anyone know if these were made or if there were only trumpet and cornet models. I think the concept was keeping the recording bell and changing the valve set on trumpets and corners so that could easily just transfer over to trombone but i’m not sure.
Trumpet only. Like Doug said... In the trombone world only the Super and the Recording exist.
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The Super Recording trumpet and cornet predated the Recording models by several years. Robb Stewart has an excellent article about the Super Recording models on his website:
https://www.robbstewart.com/olds-super-recording

Since the tenons are the same, the idea of a hybrid Super/Recording trombone has been explored many times. I don't think much of a Super slide (.485"/.500") on a Recording bell, but the Recording slide (.495"/.510") on a Super bell has some potential.

Olds did build a small number of larger bore Supers; the ones I've seen are .500"/.522". Never seen a Super in .495"/.510", though it's always a possibility.

EDIT: I neglected to mention that the larger bore Supers have larger bells, too, not just a larger slide on a regular Super bell.
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Like JohnL says, it's easy enough to assemble your own – just insert a Recording slide into a Super bell. I'd be surprised if there was a dramatic difference, but I'm happy to try the experiment (using my Recording slide) and report the results to you – just send me a Super bell!
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I think a Super bell section is quite a bit smaller than a Recording bell section, so it would probably play very differently than a complete Recording.
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What Doug said..^^...........
I have both a Super and a Recording.
They're two horns with entirely different sounds.
I once swapped the slides/bells as an experiment.
Neither hybrid was an improvement over the factory set-up.
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