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New Arkbone custom prototypes 1x and 2x have arrived. These have some really unique features. I'll be posting more details up on my site too with more photos, but here are some teaser pics in the meantime! I've developed these in consultation with Jay Friedman!

-one piece ultra thin red brass bell, 8.5" diameter with soldered rim
-seamed red brass tuning slide
-.547 standard weight nickel slide with seamed red brass crook or .562" lightweight nickel slide with seamed nickel crook
-optional remote water key
-closed or open wrap configuration
-special traditional rotary valve with bronze bearing plates and valve core
-press fit leadpipe

Thought I'd share some sneak peek pics here

As usual, the brass ark horns look sweet

88H-ish size through the tuning slide and bell throat?

Those bells are beautiful and the closed wrap is very nice.

Trav1s wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:14 pm Those bells are beautiful and the closed wrap is very nice.

I wanted to do a closed wrap option because done right, its so elegant, thanks!

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:55 pm 88H-ish size through the tuning slide and bell throat?

a bit wider bell throat, but its not as wide as a 42 size bell. I wanted to make this horn committed to being different and not just another 88H or 42 clone. It's not for everyone, but I don't really want to be in the mass trombone making business. This is an instrument designed by me for people like me (with some insights and input from Jay and Thomas Zsivkovits too of course!)

Big shout out to Stephan Schmidt, who builds these for The Brass Ark. He's really upped his game on these new horns.

slipmo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:54 pm

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:55 pm 88H-ish size through the tuning slide and bell throat?

I wanted to make this horn committed to being different and not just another 88H or 42 clone. I

Great! I like that you're not just rehashing what we've seen, I was just wondering. Eyeball puts it near 88H but you can never tell in photos entirely.

Noah,

These trombones look great. I agree that the closed wrap appears elegant. But so does the open wrap!

Has Jay had a chance to play either one? Which wrap does he prefer?

Congratulations to Stephan Schmidt.

I really loved the original Arkbone I played when I was there. If I had to replace my Elkie 88H tomorrow I'd get one of those without hesitation. I'm sure these are just as stellar. And yeah...that closed wrap is beautiful.

Posaunus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:00 pm Noah,

These trombones look great. I agree that the closed wrap appears elegant. But so does the open wrap!

Has Jay had a chance to play either one? Which wrap does he prefer?

Congratulations to Stephan Schmidt.

Open wrap is en route to Jay in Chicago, so anyone that wants to test it out can test it there or wait for it to come back to me (assuming he'll send it back!)

The closed wrap .547" model will stay here at my shop for testing and for anyone interesting in trying it out. I also do have the original 1st prototype for this horn with open wrap available for sale at a discount price currently for sale on the website with slightly different specs.

Arkbone prototype 00X

Dang, I wish I played more, or didn't already have a fleet of trombones. These look really great.

Thank you SO much for continuing to innovate and bring fresh ideas and designs into the market Noah!

The closed wrap looks like it has almost no pull. Playing with the tuning slide all the way in, I wonder if there would be just enough pull for F?

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:42 pm The closed wrap looks like it has almost no pull. Playing with the tuning slide all the way in, I wonder if there would be just enough pull for F?

It looks that way because I went with brass tubing so its hard to tell, here's a photo of the back. Not enough for an E pull, but who's doing that these days

Drooling over this closed wrap, I wish more makers would come back to these. I've never seen a closed wrap that also has the brace between the neckpipe and bell where edge bracing typically goes. Would love to have a peek behind the curtain as to how these decisions came about (podcast idea?). Very slick nickel tuning slide guard to boot, does the open wrap version have that too?

tombone21 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:52 pm Drooling over this closed wrap, I wish more makers would come back to these. I've never seen a closed wrap that also has the brace between the neckpipe and bell where edge bracing typically goes. Would love to have a peek behind the curtain as to how these decisions came about (podcast idea?). Very slick nickel tuning slide guard to boot, does the open wrap version have that too?

The open wrap prototype doesn't have the tuning bow guard. That will be an option of course for the production model regardless of the wrap, but to get a good comparison I ordered them different.

Yeah, I'll have to do a trombone corner episode about all the cool projects over the years. We do have some cool episodes coming up in the pipeline!

slipmo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:38 pm

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:42 pm The closed wrap looks like it has almost no pull. Playing with the tuning slide all the way in, I wonder if there would be just enough pull for F?

It looks that way because I went with brass tubing so its hard to tell, here's a photo of the back. Not enough for an E pull, but who's doing that these days

arkbonejayclosed_3.jpg

Dang, that looks like about 2.5 inches you get to play with. I think I usually pull that much just to get my valves to F. Maybe more! I do tune the horn in a different way from many, though.

I'll take the open wrap, please! Send the bill to Elow. He'll cover it

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:02 pm

slipmo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:38 pm

It looks that way because I went with brass tubing so its hard to tell, here's a photo of the back. Not enough for an E pull, but who's doing that these days

arkbonejayclosed_3.jpg

Dang, that looks like about 2.5 inches you get to play with. I think I usually pull that much just to get my valves to F. Maybe more! I do tune the horn in a different way from many, though.

I'll take the open wrap, please! Send the bill to Elow. He'll cover it

How ironic! Elow just placed an order for you!

slipmo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:25 pm How ironic! Elow just placed an order for you!

Wait a minute... i thought a placed an order for the closed wrap

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:02 pm
Dang, that looks like about 2.5 inches you get to play with.

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Elow wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:48 pm

slipmo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:25 pm How ironic! Elow just placed an order for you!

Wait a minute... i thought a placed an order for the closed wrap

Elow,

I think you placed two orders - an open wrap for Harrison and a closed wrap for yourself!

Delivery by Christmas. (2021 )

slipmo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:25 pm

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:02 pm

Dang, that looks like about 2.5 inches you get to play with. I think I usually pull that much just to get my valves to F. Maybe more! I do tune the horn in a different way from many, though.

I'll take the open wrap, please! Send the bill to Elow. He'll cover it

How ironic! Elow just placed an order for you!

Oh, good. My shipping address changed from when I bought the 3B from you, so I'll just send you the updated address now....