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Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm
by mahlertwo
Hey, everyone! First of all, apologies for the part I played in the events that led to the underwhelming results of the first attempt at a TC Christmas Choir video. That was mostly on me. Which leads me to my next point- Using what I've learned, I've started writing a Christmas piece for the future (I probably won't have a completed draft until mid-January, then I'll spend some time polishing it), and I'd love to have everyone's input as I go this time. So, here's the first draft! If you have time, tell me what you think!
(Also, Harrison, the Alto 1 part is specifically aimed at you.)
https://musescore.com/user/12682446/scores/6481525
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:53 am
by MStarke
Hi, I just had a brief look at it.
Looks like this could be really fun to play it live!
But for an online collaboration, it's probably easier if it is more straightforward, less breaks and tempo changes, more straightforward overall.
Just my opinion.
BTW: Even if the other arrangement maybe was not the best fit for the group, I would not take this too negatively. Different groups and settings have different needs. I could imagine that with some tweaks the other arrangement could be a good challenge for a group of professionals.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:04 am
by vetsurginc
Wow. Sounds great even on the MuseScore player. Would be a real challenge online for tempo's and pauses. But a great challenge. If you do a version for symphonic band, I would love to try it in the college group I normally play with.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:14 am
by mahlertwo
Thanks, guys! A couple things-
First of all, I always wrote the tempos with the new one related to the previous one. However, the fact that you pointed it out to me means, for an online version, I need to do a better job of it. Good note.
Second of all, the pauses are always supposed to be for a specific number of beats. However, they could definitely still be challenging online.
I'll definitely keep this stuff in mind as I continue. Thanks again!
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 am
by bwanamfupi
mahlertwo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm
Hey, everyone! First of all, apologies for the part I played in the events that led to the smoldering wreckage of the first attempt at a TC Christmas Choir video. That was mostly on me. Which leads me to my next point- Using what I've learned, I've started writing a Christmas piece for the future (I probably won't have a completed draft until mid-January, then I'll spend some time polishing it), and I'd love to have everyone's input as I go this time. So, here's the first draft! If you have time, tell me what you think!
(Also, Harrison, the Alto 1 part is specifically aimed at you.)
https://musescore.com/user/12682446/scores/6481525
I think calling it a flaming wreckage is unnecessarily harsh. I'm a relative newcomer to the TC forum, but I gather this idea was a first-of-type. It was ambitious, had a course-correction, and you've got an arrangement that can be used for a live performance in the future. This one also looks like fun, albeit above my hobbyist skill level. I agree with the other feedback regarding it being maybe better suited for playing live than virtually. There are a couple ensembles in Indianapolis who, in a non-pandemic world, would have folks with the right mix of skill and practice time to pull it off.
Incidentally, my family is spread across multiple states. We rarely gather all together, much less with instruments (harp / cello / trombone / horn are not easy to travel with). Playing virtually has opened up ways for us to interact that we didn't know about before the pandemic. It's a fun challenge, but a different one from gathering together to play. I'm learning a lot about the mechanics of that by observing these discussions.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:14 am
by mahlertwo
bwanamfupi wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 am
mahlertwo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:12 pm
Hey, everyone! First of all, apologies for the part I played in the events that led to the smoldering wreckage of the first attempt at a TC Christmas Choir video. That was mostly on me. Which leads me to my next point- Using what I've learned, I've started writing a Christmas piece for the future (I probably won't have a completed draft until mid-January, then I'll spend some time polishing it), and I'd love to have everyone's input as I go this time. So, here's the first draft! If you have time, tell me what you think!
(Also, Harrison, the Alto 1 part is specifically aimed at you.)
https://musescore.com/user/12682446/scores/6481525
I think calling it a flaming wreckage is unnecessarily harsh. I'm a relative newcomer to the TC forum, but I gather this idea was a first-of-type. It was ambitious, had a course-correction, and you've got an arrangement that can be used for a live performance in the future. This one also looks like fun, albeit above my hobbyist skill level. I agree with the other feedback regarding it being maybe better suited for playing live than virtually. There are a couple ensembles in Indianapolis who, in a non-pandemic world, would have folks with the right mix of skill and practice time to pull it off.
Incidentally, my family is spread across multiple states. We rarely gather all together, much less with instruments (harp / cello / trombone / horn are not easy to travel with). Playing virtually has opened up ways for us to interact that we didn't know about before the pandemic. It's a fun challenge, but a different one from gathering together to play. I'm learning a lot about the mechanics of that by observing these discussions.
Just to clarify a couple things, because my goal was not to disparage anyone but myself-
Everyone played very well, and Mike edited it together very well. The primary reason why the track didn't come together well (that's what I meant with the flaming wreckage comment, which was perhaps a bit harsh) was because of the arrangement itself, which is on me. It's not that it was a bad arrangement- it was the wrong arrangement for this circumstance. Again, my fault. I apologize if it seemed like I was criticizing anyone's playing. That was far from my goal.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:18 am
by BGuttman
There were actually some moments where it sounded kinda nice.
I think the dovetailed triplets didn't work. Dovetailed duplets might have been better to interlace.
My one real complaint was the excessive use of pedals on Bass 3 and 4. Probably better played on a contra.
This is a great idea and I hope to figure out how to submit a part for the next one.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:23 am
by mahlertwo
Yeah... My love of pedals is something that project taught me to temper. Anyways, that is not the point of this thread, I'm just looking for feedback on my new arrangement so that it's easier and more idiomatic than the last one.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:16 pm
by harrisonreed
bwanamfupi wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 am
I think calling it a flaming wreckage is unnecessarily harsh. I'm a relative newcomer to the TC forum, but I gather this idea was a first-of-type. It was ambitious, had a course-correction, and
you've got an arrangement that can be used for a live performance in the future. This one also looks like fun, albeit above my hobbyist skill level. I agree with the other feedback regarding it being maybe better suited for playing live than virtually. There are a couple ensembles in Indianapolis who, in a non-pandemic world, would have folks with the right mix of skill and practice time to pull it off. .
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:36 pm
by mahlertwo
Yeah, I'm with Harrison on this one.
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:33 pm
by Mikebmiller
Joey, maybe instead of writing these charts that are unlikely to get played by anyone anytime soon, why not write some quartets that you can play with your friends and band mates?
Re: Christmas Medley for the Future
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:18 pm
by mahlertwo
Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:33 pm
Joey, maybe instead of writing these charts that are unlikely to get played by anyone anytime soon, why not write some quartets that you can play with your friends and band mates?
I unfortunately can't play with them anytime soon, either. So I'm just writing whatever strikes my fancy lately.