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My new favorite trombone!

.562" gold tube/wide nickel crook slide. 9.5" 2 piece red brass bell, with seamed red brass tuning slide and gooseneck. Features some Olde School touches such as the soldered leadpipe, tuning slide bow guard, traditional wrap, friction fit slide and under-the-thumb lever. I wish now I had left off the slide lock! Also spent some time practicing my engraving. Slide pulls to E, and the horn has very solid low C (on F side) and B natural (on E side)

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Matthew,
She's beautiful.
Will you keep her or sell?

I made this for myself. But if someone just "had" to have this horn, I'm sure we could come to an agreement!

Holy moly!

Modern 60h?

Can I geek out a bit?
Did you consider TIS? Why? Why not?
Tuning slide guard only for looks or is there a difference in sound/playing?

Pretty amazing...I'm jealous.

SwissTbone.

We have made TIS versions of this. I just wanted TIB. No specific reason.

The bow guard does tend to induce a little focus, compared to a bow without the guard.

A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
Keats

Amazing! Beautiful! Also really cool.

That's one nice looking horn. I really like the use of red brass and how it contrasts with the f attachment. Nice touch! Why did you decide to go with a friction fit?

R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.

hornbuilder wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:21 pm R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.

It looks really elegant!

Wow! What a beautiful instrument.

hornbuilder wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:21 pm R CONRAD.
The friction fit was done on a whim. I could do it, so why not? I am acknowledging the instruments that set the standard all.those years ago.

I think it was a good choice for the horn, flows nicely with the other design choices you made. How's it play?

Makes me want to take a road trip to wisconsin

In the words of my 10 year old...totes jeals!

Eye candy/horn porn at its best.

How does it play? Fabulously well!

Interesting choice of mechanical linkage on the valve. Why not go for string linkage like the old Conns?

Matt, very impressive! Do you go with soldered or unsoldered rim, and if you soldered in the leadpipe, what did you go with? Thank you.

Looks so nice. Wish I could try it!
Leif.

Matt - you keep making my horn for me - one of these days I am coming to collect!!... Doug

NICE!!!!! What a great looking horn, classic Single Valve bass. Love the E-pull as well.

How does the guard on the tuning slide affect it playing wise? Looks great in contrast to the red brass

David.
The bell rim is un-soldered.

The leadpipe is an MK50L. I can't play small pieces, and generally speaking, a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well.

The more I look at it the more the horn just gets more stunning.

hornbuilder wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 pm David.
The bell rimnis un-soldered.

The leadpipe is an MK50L. I can't play small pieces, and generally speaking, a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well.

That is a very interesting observation about tighter and longer leadpipes suiting the bigger mouthpieces better.
Do you find that to be a general phenomenon or more something that is a personal thing for you?
Beautiful work by the way!
I play M&W’s myself and couldn’t be happier with them!

Chat name.
Regarding the leadpipes, that observation was made through my own experience. I just find the Bach type pipe well suited to the this type of horn, at this point in my playing life.

That’s interesting. Thank you!

Matt Walker wrote, " a Conn type pipe, being typically quite open, and short, makes a big mouthpiece too much. The tighter, longer, Bach type pipe suits a bigger mouthpiece quite well."

This may go far to explain why we often hear that vintage bass trombones play better with mouthpieces that are not too large!
I too have a MK50 lead pipe. It's very good on the Yamaha 613H I have that you set up to have interchangeable pipes. Perhaps a little easier to play or just a more conventional feel than stock. However on my Bach 50A3 the MK50 is transformative! It is by far the best lead pipe I've used on a Bach, and while keeping the good aspects of the Bach sound, improves the response and openness to the point that it's almost as good as my Shires, which is a great horn but not as deep sounding as the Bach. It may be elusive getting the best possible sound with the easiest to play, as they say in calculus, you can only maximize on variable.