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Quote from: timothy42b on Dec 15, 2017, 08:36AMThen again if it floats, you've also ruled out silver.

And brass.



So its made of wood. And therefor a duck. Or a witch.

No. It's only if the mouthpiece weighs the same as a duck. Then it's made of wood. No water required. It's all about condensity, man.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks, it's a mouthpiece.

If it quacks, it's probably a mouthpiece for a saxophone or bassoon.

Quote from: patrickosmith on Dec 15, 2017, 08:11AMI don't think that in 1955, or thereabouts, Mr. Reynold Schilke would have concerned himself with marking this particular mouthpiece with "925," "Sterling silver" or anything the like.

Other that the marking "SCHILKE" there isn't anything on it (not even a size). It appears to be somewhere between a 51D and a 51C.

Even in starting with the latter half of the 19th century, american sterling pieces are always marked as such. He would have had the stamps -- why wouldn't he have stamped at least STR or something like that on it? Apply Occam's Razor.

Friends,
I have two Al Almont mouthpieces.
One is clearly marked with the Sterling
Silver stamp, one is not.
I've tried many copies of Almont mouthpieces
that weren't made from SS. Unfortunately they don't
really measure up. 
The other thing I've noticed is that some manufactures of the
clones often "tweek" the mouthpiece in an misguided attempt to
improve it.  They don't need improving in my opinion.

Truly,
Dean Hubbard.
Artist Clinician for Getzen Trombones.

Quote from: Dean Hubbard on Dec 15, 2017, 11:38AMFriends,
I have two Al Almont mouthpieces.
One is clearly marked with the Sterling
Silver stamp, one is not.
I've tried many copies of Almont mouthpieces
that weren't made from SS. Unfortunately they don't
really measure up. 
The other thing I've noticed is that some manufactures of the
clones often "tweek" the mouthpiece in an misguided attempt to
improve it.  They don't need improving in my opinion.

Truly,
Dean Hubbard.
Artist Clinician for Getzen Trombones.

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Good information. Are yours both in the 12C range?

The one I am in possession of has no markings of any kind. I had local mouthpiece maker Karl Hammond take a look at it and he said, "I'm surprised it plays as well as it does". I asked why and he said, "the backbore is a real mess". It definitely plays. It's a very good mouthpiece, better than most, in fact.

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Quote from: BGuttman on Dec 15, 2017, 06:38AMI'd bet Dave Monette would be there first
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Good one!!

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Quote from: vegasbound on Dec 14, 2017, 12:39AMYes I understood Giardinelli bought Almont's tooling when he retired......  Also that TD would send his brass players to Almont's to have mouthpieces made.....
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And John Stork worked at Giardinelli.

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Just for curiosity, I had to do some rough calculation on a solid silver MP. To tell if you have one, a solid silver should weigh about 1.2x as much as brass...

Assume a 5.6 oz brass trombone mouthpiece. That = 1.15 cubic inches of material. (Brass = 4.86 ounces per CI.)

1.15 cubic inches of silver = 6.36 troy ounces.
A solid silver mouthpiece would have ~$120 melt value.

1.15 cubic inches of gold = 11.68 ounces (that's a HEAVY mouthpiece!).
<~$15,000 in raw material.

Note that silver and gold are measured in troy ounces, about 31 grams each.  Brass and copper are measured in avoirdupois ounces at about 28 grams each.

I've always preferred to work in metric units for dealing in precious metals to avoid confusion between avoirdupois and troy weights.

Quote from: BGuttman on Dec 15, 2017, 04:29PMNote that silver and gold are measured in troy ounces, about 31 grams each.  Brass and copper are measured in avoirdupois ounces at about 28 grams each.

I've always preferred to work in metric units for dealing in precious metals to avoid confusion between avoirdupois and troy weights.
Yeah.  It's best to use metric units.  Imperial units seem to change like diapers.

Quote from: BillO on Dec 15, 2017, 04:39PMYeah.  It's best to use metric units.  Imperial units seem to change like diapers.

Yup.  Imperial Gallons are not like the ones here in the US.

Quick (without google) -

How many square furlongs in a hide?
How may shackles in a cable?
How many scruples in an apothecaries pound?
How many gills in a puncheon?
How many slugs in a blob?

OK.  What's the gravitational constant in foot-slugs/fortnight2?

Probably has to do with the ancient, honorable term of venery: a laceration of swarf.

Quote from: BGuttman on Dec 16, 2017, 09:29AMOK.  What's the gravitational constant in foot-slugs/fortnight2?
Isn't that feet3slug-1fortnight-2?

In which case it would be just about 2.2114 x 10-20 feet3slug-1fortnight-2

Solid silver mouthpieces?  I honestly didn't know they were (or currently) a thing...

Quote from: EWadie99 on Dec 16, 2017, 06:36PMSolid silver mouthpieces?  I honestly didn't know they were (or currently) a thing...

Not currently.  There were solid silver mouthpieces made in the past.  Generally custom.

Yamaha will make them too.

Yamaha will make them too.