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Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:30 pm
by PosauneCat


I must get one! I was shocked to see the price is only $5,799! Before I get one I want to hear from anyone who has tried it.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:03 pm
by Burgerbob
Has anyone? I've never seen one outside of this video. I assume they only make them to order, and without any orders...

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:50 pm
by harrisonreed
He sounds great on it. It looks very uncomfortable to hold, and ridiculously complicated to play to anywhere near that level.

I think the piston style rotary valve raven flumpnet looks and sounds more interesting though!

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:59 pm
by PosauneCat
harrisonreed wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:50 pm He sounds great on it. It looks very uncomfortable to hold, and ridiculously complicated to play to anywhere near that level.

I think the piston style rotary valve raven flumpnet looks and sounds more interesting though!
I like the rotary valves, and I also player the piano so I think I’d be ok with left hand valves. My regular valve technique is pretty good. I’d love it for real trills and clean embellishments. There’s a limit to how good a lip trill can sound as you get into the middle range and lower. Morrison sounds great on it, but he’d sound good on a garden hose! He’s a bit of a freak of nature, in the best sense.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:29 am
by sgreatwood
I haven't played one, but there's definitely one here in Melbourne, Australia, or was until not too long ago. A young jazz guy was using one as his main horn, I think.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:30 am
by Burgerbob
harrisonreed wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:50 pm It looks very uncomfortable to hold
It can't be any worse than the Holton superbone, and actually looks pretty ergonomic to me.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:14 am
by Posaunus
PosauneCat wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:30 pm
I must get one! I was shocked to see the price is only $5,799! Before I get one I want to hear from anyone who has tried it.
Mike,
Lots of trombone for the money. Please buy it and give us a report!

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:08 am
by PosauneCat
Burgerbob wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:30 am
harrisonreed wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:50 pm It looks very uncomfortable to hold
It can't be any worse than the Holton superbone, and actually looks pretty ergonomic to me.
I agree. I like the way you basically just hold it in the palm of your hand. Morrison talks about its good weight distribution.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:15 am
by PosauneCat
Posaunus wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:14 am
Mike,
Lots of trombone for the money. Please buy it and give us a report!
I’m going to write to Thomann and see what their return policy is. I wouldn’t want to buy it and find out I really don’t like it and then be stuck with it. Although I’m sure I could dump it on eBay pretty easily. I’ll write to Schagerl too and see if they have, or plan to have, any U.S. distributors. I just thinking’s a very cool design and would be fun to play!

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:30 am
by Doug Elliott
I think Chuck Levin's is the distributor here. Call and ask for Lee Walkowich

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:24 pm
by PosauneCat
Doug Elliott wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:30 am I think Chuck Levin's is the distributor here. Call and ask for Lee Walkowich
Thanks, Doug.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:18 pm
by Finetales
I've played lots of Schagerls, but unfortunately the superbone isn't among them. I'm sure it's a great player.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm
by PosauneCat
Finetales wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:18 pm I've played lots of Schagerls, but unfortunately the superbone isn't among them. I'm sure it's a great player.
That’s helpful! I was not familiar with Schagerl. The quality of there instruments is good then?

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:27 pm
by hyperbolica
PosauneCat wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm
Finetales wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:18 pm I've played lots of Schagerls, but unfortunately the superbone isn't among them. I'm sure it's a great player.
That’s helpful! I was not familiar with Schagerl. The quality of there instruments is good then?
I've only played Schagerl at a show. The instrument was fantastic. Don't even remember which one it was, but it was great. They do suffer from the BAC syndrome a little, I think - a little showboat. Their pro horns in the US are overpriced, in my opinion, but they look great, and appear to be very well built. They do have intermediate and student horns that are less flamboyant.

Re: Have any of you played one of these?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:14 pm
by PosauneCat
hyperbolica wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:27 pm
PosauneCat wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm

That’s helpful! I was not familiar with Schagerl. The quality of there instruments is good then?
I've only played Schagerl at a show. The instrument was fantastic. Don't even remember which one it was, but it was great. They do suffer from the BAC syndrome a little, I think - a little showboat. Their pro horns in the US are overpriced, in my opinion, but they look great, and appear to be very well built. They do have intermediate and student horns that are less flamboyant.
Yeah, I could tell from the webpage there’s a bit of showboating going on. That’s ok though…it can be fun. Thanks for the info.