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Valve Trombone
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:56 pm
by rleegabe
Are Jean Baptiste Trombone JBVT480BX any good?
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:02 pm
by BGuttman
Compared to what?
Compared to the Indian valve trombones that flood Ebay? Yes.
Compared to a JP-Rath or Wessex Tubas? Probably not.
Biggest problem is the inconsistency in the instruments. They can vary from OK to horrid.
But none of them can hold a candle to a good Conn 5G.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:42 pm
by greenbean
rleegabe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:56 pm
Are Jean Baptiste Trombone JBVT480BX any good?
No.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:55 pm
by Matt K
It’s probably fine. I have a Jean Baptiste slide trumpet that’s actually plays pretty well. But it’s also a slide trumpet. I’m not exactly going to take it on any gigs. It’s a novelty. If I wanted to play professionally, I’d probably modify it or get something else. If the valve trombone is a novelty to you it’s probably totally adequate. If you’re going to perform on it, there are probably better options you want to consider.
EDIT: Yay autocorrect
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:17 am
by rleegabe
BGuttman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:02 pm
Compared to what?
Compared to the Indian valve trombones that flood Ebay? Yes.
Compared to a JP-Rath or Wessex Tubas? Probably not.
Biggest problem is the inconsistency in the instruments. They can vary from OK to horrid.
But none of them can hold a candle to a good Conn 5G.

Just learning to play, a Conn,Getzen, Jupiter will have to wait
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:18 am
by rleegabe
Matt K wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:55 pm
It’s probably fine. I have a Jean Baptiste slide trumpet that’s cruelly plays pretty well. But it’s also a slide trumpet. I’m not exactly going to take it on any gigs. It’s a novelty. If I wanted to play professionally, I’d probably modify it or get something else. If the valve trombone is a novelty to you it’s probably totally adequate. If you’re going to perform on it, there are probably better options you want to consider.
Just learning to play, a Conn,Getzen, Jupiter will have to wait
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:51 am
by Matt K
Yeah for that purpose it's probably a-okay. If you want to learn valves and aren't set on a valve trombone, obviously a baritone, euphonium, marching trombone, etc. also have valves and can frequently be found for better prices than a valve trombone.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:11 am
by Cotboneman
A friend of mine recently purchased an in-house brand flugabone at Schmitt Music in the Minneapolis area and absolutely loves it. Of course he had the opportunity to physically go to the store and play-test it extensively before plunking down his cash. He said the price was under $900. He needed a valve trombone or something similar for some work he was doing but was unsatisfied with what he was seeing on internet sources.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:01 am
by timothy42b
Matt K wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:51 am
Yeah for that purpose it's probably a-okay. If you want to learn valves and aren't set on a valve trombone, obviously a baritone, euphonium, marching trombone, etc. also have valves and can frequently be found for better prices than a valve trombone.
You would not want to perform on it, but a jHorn is fun and $129 new.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:13 am
by afugate
Matt K wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:51 am
Yeah for that purpose it's probably a-okay. If you want to learn valves and aren't set on a valve trombone, obviously a baritone, euphonium, marching trombone, etc. also have valves and can frequently be found for better prices than a valve trombone.
I'd do this. I picked up an old Olds baritone for just a song. Not a looker, but a great sounding horn.
--Andy in OKC
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by Finetales
In my opinion, if you're going to buy a Chinese valve trombone (nothing wrong with that as long as you're not expecting it to be professional quality - I've had a lot of success with my Chinese instruments), you should buy one from a music retailer (rather than a general retailer like Amazon) that has established good customer service and return policies. With that in mind, I'd recommend the
Thomann valve trombone over a Jean Baptiste.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:11 pm
by rleegabe
I just bought a Conn Elkhart 3 valve trombone today, it's in really nice shape. I am trying to find the year it was made which I think is 1965 serial number E3099. I want to clean the inside real well before I start practising, also came with a Yamaha 48 mouthpiece. Any suggestions for a mouthpiece for this trombone?
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:16 pm
by BGuttman
The Yamaha 48 would be a good mouthpiece for this instrument. So would a Bach 7C, Conn 3, Conn Remington, Bach 6 1/2 AL, and any of a number of mouthpieces. Depends on your mouth structure and what you are accustomed to playing (if anything). Remember that the instrument uses a small shank mouthpiece, which is probably the only limit on what you can try.
Re: Valve Trombone
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:53 pm
by mbtrombone
If it’s like my students Jean baptiste trumpet I would pass on it. We are constantly fighting the valves. On his two are great. One valve is slow or sticks. It has been lapped and worked on, but I have a feeling something else is causing the binding. Also the case is horrible.