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Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:20 am
by Trevorspaulding376
Anyone know anything about these other than bore size and bell size , any experience on them ?

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:33 am
by TromboneMonkey
I was curious because I saw the one Dillon recently posted (which is the same one I assume brought you here). And looked it up; the google translate of the Japanese page is characteristically hilarious:

"A painfully delicate pianissimo, a heavy fortissimo that never collapses. Only skilled handwork that transforms mere metal into a material that creates music can produce this sound... A special thin tube bore size is used for the 8-inch bell. The nickel silver slide outer tube brings light operability and sound. This model is recommended for orthodox jazz players."


Further research shows an archived page where Eijiro Nakagawa endorsed one. I think he endorses the 895EN now, so maybe it was a bridge to that model.

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:40 am
by greenbean
"A painfully delicate pianissimo"...

I love it!

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:49 am
by PaulT
What is going on with Dillon's pricing? They are asking $4983 for a used 697 when a new 897 sells for $2450?

Concerning the 8510 in question here, $4983 is probably close to double what it sold for new, but at least it has rarity in this country going for it in its pricing structure. But, $4983 for a used 697 (which, in excellent condition, commonly sells for around $1000-$1400 ((ebay has one currently listed for $1200/best offer rated in excellent condition))

Dillon's business is Dillon's business, but, ?

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:59 am
by PaulT
Holy Moly, Dillon's has listed a price of $9450 for a new Yamaha 897. Schmidt Music has one in hand that is listed for $2450. WWBW sells the 897z for the same $2450. And Dillon has $9450 listed?

https://www.dillonmusic.com/yamaha-cust ... -ysl-897z/

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 am
by Matt K
The used stuff is typically dictated by the owner of the horn. No idea about the new price. That might be a typo.

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:05 am
by Posaunus

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:07 am
by PaulT
Dillon's Yamahas are a bargain compared to their Bachs. Their price for a Bach 36 is $12,500.
https://www.dillonmusic.com/bach-36-str ... -trombone/

(I am beginning to think someone has hacked their site)

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:11 am
by PaulT
Make that, I am sure someone must have hacked their site.
https://www.dillonmusic.com/search.php? ... =trombones

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:15 am
by ithinknot
PaulT wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:11 am Make that, I am sure someone must have hacked their site.
You've got it on the wrong currency settings

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:01 am
by PaulT
Bingo!

Somehow, my Dillon google put me in Peruvian currency and I didn't know about Dillon's very interesting (and fun) currency exchange feature (the 8510 would be 5,107,620 Columbian Pesos).

Thanks, I had just decided I should probably call Dillon's and let them know someone had been messing with their website. You saved me!

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:29 am
by PaulT
Actually, I was right. Someone was messing with their website. I just didn't know it was me.

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:25 pm
by Trevorspaulding376
Correct and the price on dillons was fair when I saw was just curious if anyone had experience although I know unlikely since it seems like it was a model for Japan market but thought maybe one of the artists here who is sponsored by them may have some insight

Re: Yamaha 8510?

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:17 am
by Aznguyy
I've play tested one of these a few years ago in Japan. It reminded me of a good lighter King 3B. Slide was amazing. I eventually chose the 895EN over this model.