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Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:04 am
by Jimbbob
Maybe this is an easy one, but which Conn tenors had removable leadpipes? Wording on the bell is CG Conn Limited, USA".
Thanks

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:08 am
by blap73
Ah, the goodwill listing. I saw that one too :-)
The counterweights have me thrown a bit. Not sure I've seen that style on a Conn.
Sometimes if you pose the question to the seller and tell them where to look they are good at responding to questions. Likely to be stamped on the bottom of the receiver.

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:13 am
by Burgerbob
100H

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:18 am
by Jimbbob
This board is amazing. Yes, Blap, the goodwill listing :) I did just buy a 356G from Goodwill and, after Eric E's touch, I think it will be a great horn, but it was terribly packed, and the bell was a mess. I promised myself "never again", but found myself perusing their sight anyways, just to see what's there.
Aidan, you nailed it, thank you!

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:59 am
by hyperbolica
The counterweights and extra leadpipes are 100h. Same specs as a 6h, but slightly different. These can go either way. Some are as good as a good 6h, and some aren't. I've never owned one that I kept, but I played a friends 100h that was fantastic. Minick design.

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:50 am
by MStarke
hyperbolica wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:59 am The counterweights and extra leadpipes are 100h. Same specs as a 6h, but slightly different. These can go either way. Some are as good as a good 6h, and some aren't. I've never owned one that I kept, but I played a friends 100h that was fantastic. Minick design.
I have two 6hs and one 100h.
To me the 100h is not only physically lighter, but also considerably lighter in sound and maybe with a little easier response. It's quite easy and fun to play.
The 6hs to me sound larger than the specs would suggest and also have more "character" in the sound. And they have a better high D!
So I would say other than the specs these are quite different horns.
The 100h can be changed quite a bit through the leadpipes. I am playing it with a Kanstul Kaplan leadpipe at the moment.
I could imagine playing the 6h also in some classical/orchestral settings while the 100h for me is much more a pure jazz/big band Horn.

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:02 pm
by BGuttman
There were some posts on the old TTF that the Minick horn (ancestor of the 100H) played different from the Conn horn, even though they looked identical. The gist of these posts was that the Minick was better.

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:51 pm
by Vegasbound
100h

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:03 pm
by Posaunus

Re: Conn trombone identification

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:14 pm
by jorymil
Jimbbob wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:18 am This board is amazing. Yes, Blap, the goodwill listing :) I did just buy a 356G from Goodwill and, after Eric E's touch, I think it will be a great horn, but it was terribly packed, and the bell was a mess. I promised myself "never again", but found myself perusing their sight anyways, just to see what's there.
Aidan, you nailed it, thank you!
I've bought two horns from Goodwill in the past year. One was shipped with slide and bell attached. The other shipped in a case, but wasn't worth what I paid. I feel like it's interesting to look for deals there, but unless you want an Allora student horn, the going prices are too high.