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Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:32 pm
by Slidennis
Do you know any (not boutique) "jazz" horn that has a slide wider than, let's say, the King 3B's?

I find wide slides more comfy to play, as I tilt the bone downwarts when ascending...

(With an Olds Super, the gooseneck end up on my ear... :? )

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:49 am
by HermanGerman
Besson BE 940 (the one with interchangable leadpipes)... it is not only equipped with a VERY wide slide but also one of the best Jazz horns. (the only one I have NEVER sold...and that says a lot...) The slide is lightweight brass (200 gr) and works as perfect as a Rath slide.
Another idea: bend you mouthpiece! That is what I do. That works very well, too.

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:14 am
by Slidennis
Thanks, Herman !
Not made anymore, I suppose? Is Courtois or B&S making a similar bone nowadays?

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:25 am
by Slidennis
OK, I saw this subject elsewhere :

https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?t=18130

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:40 am
by HermanGerman
Why not try a mp bending? I swear there is no con..

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:43 am
by Matt K
I had a nickel "wide-glide" crook a very long time ago that I sold thinking I'd never put it on anything (because I had a Mt. Vernon Bach at the time, and I didn't want to torch it!). Kick myself for that every once in awhile! M/K drawing does have some bends that are on the wider side of small bores... they have the dimensions posted. I don't mind narrower slides so I wasn't specifically selecting for that, but I'm having a franken slide (almost finished!) with one that I can report on sometime probably early next month to see if it helped with ergonomics at all.

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:39 am
by tbonesullivan
Do the Bach Strad 12 an 16 models have wider slides than a 3b? I've never actually played either, so I have no idea.

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:43 am
by ithinknot
tbonesullivan wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:39 am Do the Bach Strad 12 an 16 models have wider slides than a 3b? I've never actually played either, so I have no idea.
Nah, basically the same

https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?p=136117#p136117

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:28 am
by glenp
K&H BVL has a wide and very comfortable slide and is an excellent playing horn. It’s not a boutique horn either, but they’re not as common here in the US. It’s a German brand and is quite popular over there.

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:22 pm
by ithinknot
glenp wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:28 am K&H BVL
FWIW - the .500 and .512 models are wide (78.5mm on the chart in the other thread, thanks to your info!) but the .480/488 model is something more 'normal', probably 68-70mm-ish. I haven't played it, but I've seen one briefly in the flesh and it's definitely not as wide as the larger models.

Re: Wide slide small bore axe...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:06 pm
by OneTon
The Horn Guys get BvL’s in from time to time. Thomann does too