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Gfunk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:11 am My daily driver is basically a Colin Williams horn. It is a cut Colin Williams bell (from the factory) and the rest of the horn is pre-Eastman. It’s very easy to play and not a huge blow compared to some other orchestral players horns (wide slide and large rotor are big contributors). I personally like unsoldered bells and not a huge blow, so it works quite well for me. Very easy to play and push in the direction I want. If I can’t do something, it’s almost always me. It’s a middle of the road kind of horn, but in a very good way IMO

JeffBone44 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:59 pm

Gfunk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:11 am My daily driver is basically a Colin Williams horn. It is a cut Colin Williams bell (from the factory) and the rest of the horn is pre-Eastman. It’s very easy to play and not a huge blow compared to some other orchestral players horns (wide slide and large rotor are big contributors). I personally like unsoldered bells and not a huge blow, so it works quite well for me. Very easy to play and push in the direction I want. If I can’t do something, it’s almost always me. It’s a middle of the road kind of horn, but in a very good way IMO

My horn probably isn't too far off from it, except I have a TB47 instead of the TW47. But it does have a rotor and a 7YLW bell. I believe that the #7 bells are soldered. So it's a little different, but still easy to play. If I can't do something, it's certainly me that's flawed and not the horn.

CalgaryTbone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:11 pm I tried all 3 of those models at the ITF last summer. I didn't have a lot of time on them, and the room is loud with people trying other stuff. Also, either the Rejano or the Williams had to be played with the other slide (I can't remember which) because someone had put the wrong slide on the display model - it was the first day, just as they were opening up, and someone had made a mistake. The guy in charge was very apologetic and handed me the slide from what I had just played saying it was the closest to what comes with the one I was about to try.

The Alessi is somewhat similar to the Edwards 396A. It slots well, and has a big sound, and seems easy to get around on at the same time. The Williams was similar - maybe a bit tighter sound, but not necessarily in a bad way. The Rejano really surprised me - I didn't expect to like it with its heavy bell, but I really did like the sound. I think it's a little tougher to move around on (a tighter slot to the notes) than the other two, but it has a very warm, broad sound when you are holding a note. Very heavy - feels like you have a double thayer bass trombone in your hands.

All 3 are good instruments for sure, but you would have to try them to see for yourself.

Jim Scott

norbie2018 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:52 pm I notice this happening on threads - an OP writes a specific question and the conversation goes off on tangents unrelated to the original post. I feel that part of that is natural, part of the evolution of a thread, but I also feel that new threads with the new topics should be created so as not to detract from the original post. Very few people have responded to my original question so perhaps this thread will naturally die. Honesty, I'd prefer that over the tangents.

JeffBone44 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:12 am

CalgaryTbone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:11 pm I tried all 3 of those models at the ITF last summer. I didn't have a lot of time on them, and the room is loud with people trying other stuff. Also, either the Rejano or the Williams had to be played with the other slide (I can't remember which) because someone had put the wrong slide on the display model - it was the first day, just as they were opening up, and someone had made a mistake. The guy in charge was very apologetic and handed me the slide from what I had just played saying it was the closest to what comes with the one I was about to try.

The Alessi is somewhat similar to the Edwards 396A. It slots well, and has a big sound, and seems easy to get around on at the same time. The Williams was similar - maybe a bit tighter sound, but not necessarily in a bad way. The Rejano really surprised me - I didn't expect to like it with its heavy bell, but I really did like the sound. I think it's a little tougher to move around on (a tighter slot to the notes) than the other two, but it has a very warm, broad sound when you are holding a note. Very heavy - feels like you have a double thayer bass trombone in your hands.

All 3 are good instruments for sure, but you would have to try them to see for yourself.

Jim Scott

I guess this would be a related question - what did you notice about the Alessi valve wrap design versus the Rejano wrap and the standard rotor? I’ve heard that the Alessi valve feels more stable - perhaps more centered and locked in?