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Hello,
I would like to try a kind of 6 3/4C with a larger throat and maybe in a heavy blank, like megatone’s.
Seems that they do the 7c megatone but not the 6 3/4C.
I find that the regular 6 3/4 has a too tight throat for me.

Also I would like to have a 25.4 rim instead of the 25…
Do you think there is a similar piece on the market, without going to order a custom one from Bach?

Maybe Greg black 6C do the trick?
Doug Elliot 100 C+ ?
Thanks

MT or LT 100 rim, C or C+ cup, backbore depends on the horn.
Any of those combination would be close. Fine tune to your horn and expectations.

You can also check out Patrick Mouthpieces.

https://patrickmouthpieces.com/trombone ... y=61240005

AndreaAndreoli wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:04 pm Hello,
I would like to try a kind of 6 3/4C with a larger throat and maybe in a heavy blank, like megatone’s.
Seems that they do the 7c megatone but not the 6 3/4C.
I find that the regular 6 3/4 has a too tight throat for me.

Also I would like to have a 25.4 rim instead of the 25…
Do you think there is a similar piece on the market, without going to order a custom one from Bach?

Maybe Greg black 6C do the trick?
Doug Elliot 100 C+ ?
Thanks

You might want the Nils Landgren. It's not a heavy blank, but hits the 6 3/4C and open throat bit.

viewtopic.php?p=127013#p127013

DE C+ is great

Wick 7CS is also what you're describing... 25.4mm rim, larger throat than Bach Cs (6.25mm, same as the Nils)

Yamaha "Nils Landgren": Cup I.D. ~25.1mm (0.989"); Throat 6.25mm (0.246")

Not a bad place to start. Available. Affordable

AndreaAndreoli wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:04 pm Hello,
I would like to try a kind of 6 3/4C with a larger throat and maybe in a heavy blank, like megatone’s.
Seems that they do the 7c megatone but not the 6 3/4C.
I find that the regular 6 3/4 has a too tight throat for me.

Also I would like to have a 25.4 rim instead of the 25…
Do you think there is a similar piece on the market, without going to order a custom one from Bach?

Maybe Greg black 6C do the trick?
Doug Elliot 100 C+ ?
Thanks

Wich makes the 7cs Heritage if you like heavy blanks.
Bach makes 6 3/4c Megatone. Delfayo Marsalis played this one.

Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:53 pm MT or LT 100 rim, C or C+ cup, backbore depends on the horn.
Any of those combination would be close. Fine tune to your horn and expectations.

Thank you Doug!

Thank you for all this super useful replies!

How about either the 6.5AL megatone or the regular 6.5AM?

The 6.5AL megatone has the blank and rim diameter you want (25.4mm), and the throat is wider than the normal .261 throat on the non-megatone 6.5AL. They don't give an exact width though.

The AM is the same thing but even larger in the throat and backbore.

ithinknot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:13 pm DE C+ is great

Wick 7CS is also what you're describing... 25.4mm rim, larger throat than Bach Cs (6.25mm, same as the Nils)

For sure! C+ is my choice for .485/500 horns

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:57 am How about either the 6.5AL megatone or the regular 6.5AM?

The 6.5AL megatone has the blank and rim diameter you want (25.4mm), and the throat is wider than the normal .261 throat on the non-megatone 6.5AL. They don't give an exact width though.

The AM is the same thing but even larger in the throat and backbore.

Thank you! Not sure that the AL or AM cup would work for me… looking for a C cup indeed
Btw does a 6 3/4C megatone exists?
Cause it doesn’t show up on Bach catalogue, but some cats told me that they had it as a custom order…
But really never seen around before

Email Jim New and ask him for an NG.2 model, it might be close to what you're looking for. I've been working with Jim for over a year now, trying to mate a 6.5AL rim to a 6-3/4 ish body. I have a bunch of prototypes and this latest one works pretty well. I think we're at a .240 throat, but the throat/slope of the throat is what I need to work on next.

ngrinder wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:20 pm Email Jim New and ask him for an NG.2 model, it might be close to what you're looking for. I've been working with Jim for over a year now, trying to mate a 6.5AL rim to a 6-3/4 ish body. I have a bunch of prototypes and this latest one works pretty well. I think we're at a .240 throat, but the throat/slope of the throat is what I need to work on next.

Thank you, I check it out

harrisonreed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:57 am How about either the 6.5AL megatone or the regular 6.5AM?

The 6.5AL megatone has the blank and rim diameter you want (25.4mm), and the throat is wider than the normal .261 throat on the non-megatone 6.5AL. They don't give an exact width though.

The AM is the same thing but even larger in the throat and backbore.

actually the AM is smaller in throat and backbore and has a .257 "F" throat. Here is a snap of the Bach catalogue:

Bach Trombone Mouthpieces (nominal dimensions from the Bach mouthpiece catalog)

SMALL SHANK:
6¾C: Cup I.D. 25.00mm; Throat 5.85mm; Backbore #402
6½A: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 5.85mm; Backbore #402
6½AL: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 6.63mm; Backbore #420
6½AM: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 6.53mm; Backbore #413
6: Cup I.D. 25.50mm; Throat 5.85mm; Backbore #402

LARGE SHANK:
6½A: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 7.00mm; Backbore #429
6½AL: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 6.63mm; Backbore #420
6½AM: Cup I.D. 25.40mm; Throat 6.53mm; Backbore #413

Note that the Small Shank 6½A has a smaller throat than the 6½AL and 6½AM,
whereas the Large Shank 6½A has a larger throat than the 6½AL and 6½AM.