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S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:06 pm
by kurtfillman
Hello and thank you for any responses. I just purchased a 1947 Super Olds Trombone and I am trying to figure the exact model. It has the fluted edges, and says Super Olds on the lettering band. Every other instrument I've seen has the scrolled band on the bell in silver. This is in gold tone. And the FE is written different. Is this a different instrument?

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:45 am
by Digidog
Pictures will always facilitate the answering of any question about horn specifications and identification.

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:31 am
by JohnL
There was a period of time in the late 1940's that S-15's had gold tone rings. All of the examples I've seen have serial numbers in the 17,xxx - 20,xxx range.

My theory is that there was a period of time when Olds was unable to acquire suitable nickel silver sheet in the appropriate size, possibly due to lingering wartime shortages.

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:59 pm
by OneTon
Olds has several variations of Super trombones. Early Supers may have smaller bells, taper fit joints, and perhaps no garland. This can be seen in other models and trumpets and cornets as well.

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:41 am
by kurtfillman
You are absolutely correct on the serial numbers. This instrument is 19,382. Do they have a better value?

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:43 pm
by Posaunus
kurtfillman wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:41 am You are absolutely correct on the serial numbers. This instrument is 19,382. Do they have a better value?
I expect that the value is in the condition of the instrument, not the color or flavor of the "tone ring" or the serial number / manufacture date.
How's the slide? Tuning slide? Lacquer? The better these are, I'd guess the more the value.

Re: S15 Super Olds with Gold Band

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:43 pm
by JohnL
kurtfillman wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:41 am You are absolutely correct on the serial numbers. This instrument is 19,382. Do they have a better value?
Not particularly, no.