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How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:41 pm
by Austin4203
What should i look for in a jazz mouthpiece? Id like to start playing lead trombone in big band, and i know what horn i want, but idk how to choose a mouthpiece. What kind of sounds should i look for and are there any specific mouthpieces i should try?

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:17 pm
by BGuttman
Your current mouthpiece should be a good start. We generally don't choose mouthpieces based on some "norm".

Sometimes a shallower version of your current mouthpiece can help with high notes, but just because [insert trombone god here] plays something doesn't necessarily mean you should too.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:34 pm
by JeffBone44
Austin4203 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:41 pm What should i look for in a jazz mouthpiece? Id like to start playing lead trombone in big band, and i know what horn i want, but idk how to choose a mouthpiece. What kind of sounds should i look for and are there any specific mouthpieces i should try?
For starters, I see that you are currently playing a large bore tenor and bass trombone. I assume that you'll be playing in big band at school, and your band director recommended you for lead trombone? Mouthpieces for small bore trombones usually range in size from 6 1/2AL to 12C. It's just a matter of choosing what you're comfortable with.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:42 pm
by Doug Elliott
What horn will you get?

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:24 pm
by Austin4203
JeffBone44 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:34 pm
Austin4203 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:41 pm What should i look for in a jazz mouthpiece? Id like to start playing lead trombone in big band, and i know what horn i want, but idk how to choose a mouthpiece. What kind of sounds should i look for and are there any specific mouthpieces i should try?
For starters, I see that you are currently playing a large bore tenor and bass trombone. I assume that you'll be playing in big band at school, and your band director recommended you for lead trombone? Mouthpieces for small bore trombones usually range in size from 6 1/2AL to 12C. It's just a matter of choosing what you're comfortable with.
I have been playing bass bone in jazz for the last three years, and tenor for concert. I'm graduating this year and decided in college i want to play lead in jazz band.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:30 pm
by Austin4203
Doug Elliott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:42 pm What horn will you get?
Im hoping i can save up the money to get a king 3b/2b. specifically silver if possible. Ive played one a lot in schmitt music and its my dream horn for sure. Ive tried a lot of other horns too, including gold brass versions which are amazing as well. But the silver 3b was definitely my favorite.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:55 pm
by baileyman
You can really dive into this question, but you can also take a shortcut: Listen for a section in a band you really like and copy their equipment.

I mean, why not? You're not rooted to anything right now. If you learn something that leads you to change, do that later. No need to worry about it now. There's already a huge amount to learn about big band and lead without wrestling with equipment details.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:07 pm
by Pezza
You don't choose a mouthpiece, the mouthpiece chooses you!

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:50 pm
by Bach5G
Buy the 3B. What does it come with? A Bach 6 and 1/2 AL? Not the first mpc to come to mind for lead but there will be many who’ll disagree. Doug undoubtedly has something that will work well. A couple of less expensive alternatives that come to mind are a Bach 6 and 3/4 or 7C or maybe a Yamaha Nils Landgren.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:42 am
by skaskaster
For lead I prefer something like bach 11-12c.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 12:25 pm
by Posaunus
If you're going to buy your trombone from Schmitt Music, have Keith Hilson (their trombone expert) help you to select a mouthpiece. He's got good ears!

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:45 pm
by Doug Elliott
^
Ask Keith his advice.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 9:54 pm
by mazman
6 1/2AL, 7C, 11C all work well on the 3B. All are easy to come by. Record yourself and see which one sounds best.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:16 am
by Macbone1
One word - Marcinkiewicz. The original, not the custom or artist lines. Download their size chart and find a comparison chart online.

Re: How to choose a jazz mouthpeice?

Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:22 am
by Macbone1
Im hoping i can save up the money to get a king 3b/2b. specifically silver if possible. Ive played one a lot in schmitt music and its my dream horn for sure. Ive tried a lot of other horns too, including gold brass versions which are amazing as well. But the silver 3b was definitely my favorite.
I have a great used 2B with a Tempo bell, nickel silver. This one feels a bit more like a 3B since Tempo bells have a bigger throat. No dents, very decent lacquer, silky slide. Can ship in the US for $975 total, PM me if interested. No case. Can also throw in an excellent Jerome Callet mouthpiece; extremely rare and like new condition. Size is close to 6.5 AL but plays punchier.