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Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:14 pm
by BassboneJ25
I play an Edwards B502i with a single bore.562 slide and SS B3 leadpipe. I’m a pretty advanced player that has received their terminal degree in trombone performance. I am currently playing on a Hammond 21BXL and a Laskey 90D. For me, the Hammond is a very orchestral dark sound that can carry the weight of an orchestral section on heavier germanic/romantic repertoire, and the laskey is a brighter sound that can carry more of the early classical and jazz band sound and sections. I am currently looking for a mouthpiece that I can use with soloing. So the hammond, for me, is too dark and in the upper register loses some of overtone color to help project, a wide wall of sound. The laskey is great, but whenever I give it any more power, the sound breaks up really soon, a laser of sound. I am looking for something in between those two styles. Any suggestions would be helpful!
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:22 pm
by Burgerbob
Markey 90
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:26 pm
by jjenkins
Doug Elliott LB114/K/K8 or a Griego-Markey 90 or Greg Black NY 1GS
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:54 am
by LIBrassCo
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:16 am
by tbonesullivan
Burgerbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:22 pmMarkey 90
Seconded. The Markey series are just great mouthpieces. I keep wanting to get a 90 myself to see if a mouthpiece of that size will actually work for me. I tried a Doug Yeo and a Ferguson LS, but they are just too big and I didn't like the feel.
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:38 am
by BassboneJ25
any thoughts on Giddings?
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:41 am
by Burgerbob
BassboneJ25 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:38 am
any thoughts on Giddings?
I'll just go ahead and say no
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:35 pm
by BassboneJ25
Burgerbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:41 am
BassboneJ25 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:38 am
any thoughts on Giddings?
I'll just go ahead and say no
Heard, I have tried and bought a lot of mouthpieces over the years and because I had no job this summer had to sell my whole stock. I'm asking for others thoughts on mouthpieces of this size, since I moved to a slightly bigger rim diameter, because I'm not trying to spend a lot of money dialing stuff in... I should go to a conference/show, but I am not able to this spring/summer. So I am limited to what music stores have around me.
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:49 pm
by bassbone1993
BassboneJ25 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:38 am
any thoughts on Giddings?
I found them to be quite stale sounding. I've had 3-4 of their bass pieces, and they don't feel great or sound great in my opinion. If you REALLY wanted to look into a steel piece, I'd look at AR Resonance
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:00 pm
by Burgerbob
It sounds like a gamble, but I'd just get a Markey 90. Used if you can. It might just replace your other two pieces entirely
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:42 pm
by Doug Elliott
You're always welcome to audition my stuff and return if you don't like it.
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:48 pm
by BigBadandBass
There’s a reason steel hasn’t caught on and become major mainstream. I third a Markey, it’s the Toyota Corolla of bass pieces at this point, sans the price tag
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:32 am
by WGWTR180
I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:35 am
by Burgerbob
WGWTR180 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:32 am
I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??
90 is Greg black 1G sized (29mm), 87 is Greg black 1 1/8G sized (bit smaller).
Markey uses the 87 for most playing.
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:56 am
by WGWTR180
Burgerbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:35 am
WGWTR180 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:32 am
I realize I'll get multiple opinions on this but here goes. Markey 90 size wise is close to what? Markey 87 size wise is close to??
90 is Greg black 1G sized (29mm), 87 is Greg black 1 1/8G sized (bit smaller).
Markey uses the 87 for most playing.
Thanks. Read the specs but this is helpful
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:06 am
by GabrielRice
But the Markeys are quite a bit more efficient than the Blacks - I think there's a little less cup volume and certainly a smaller throat.
To go back to older models...
93/95 are kind of like the corresponding Laskeys
90 is in the Schilke 60 neighborhood
87 is between 60 and 59
85 is in the Schilke 59 neighborhood
Re: Bass Bone Mouthpiece Help
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:28 am
by Burgerbob
Yup, I'm speaking only to the rim sizes.