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Hi All -

Cleaning out some gear that's just sitting around:

1. Edwards case - the older original case for large bore tenor, tan color, big, heavy wood case - very protective. In great shape, even though it was checked underneath on a couple of flights. Just a few scrapes on the leather trim. $175

2. Getzen case - black, wooden case that will fit Getzen/Edwards large bore tenors. Very solid for everyday use - not as protective, or as heavy as the Edwards listed above. In great shape as well. I can include a custom foam piece that you can swap out for the part that holds the bell section that changes it to fit an Edwards/Getzen small bore horn. $125

3. Leather gig bag - Artistic Products, NY, NY. This is a very old bag, in great shape. Bad news is that it is not protective at all by today's standards, and will only fit a small bore horn with a small bell. I tried my Edwards small bore (7.75") and it was too tight - my alto ft (7.25") and I think a King 2B, Bach 12 would fit, but certainly nothing larger. I bought this online in a nostalgic moment - my teacher, Ed Herman used one of these when I was studying with him. I was going to use it to store any extra bells/slides in my practice room, just to keep the dust off them. It didn't occur to me that the manufacturer made different sized bags. The leather is a very high grade, and the padding has held up very well, but there's not as much as you get in a Cronkite/Reunion Blues bag, and there are no hard inserts to protect the slide or bell. Very light weight, and great workmanship/quality of materials. Great for an old historic instrument. $50

4. Besson Baritone Horn - 3 valve compensating small bore British baritone - not Euphonium. If you know anything about traditional British Brass Bands, you'll know that the Baritone is an instrument in B flat that splits the difference between the Alto (Tenor) Horn and the Euphonium. The sound is lighter and brighter than a Euphonium - a great example of what it sounds like is the NY Philharmonic Mahler 7th broadcast/video that was making the rounds recently. Joe Alessi plays the opening solo on a modern Yamaha baritone. This was another nostalgic buy - my Dad used to play a horn just like this one in various Salvation Army bands. It's an older instrument, in pretty good shape - a few dents and dings, and the bell looks like it had a crease removed at some point. Nothing that interferes with the sound or playability of the horn. About 1/2 of the lacquer remains. I have an Altieri gig bag that is really meant for a Euphonium that I can include for it - not ideal, but gets it from point A to B. I really like the sound of this horn, and it plays very well - not a beauty-contest winner, however! Pitch is pretty good, with some usual false-fingerings required at times (3rd valve instead of 1 & 2 for instance). $500

You pay the shipping - probably not worth shipping anything except maybe the Baritone outside of N. America - Canadian Postal rates are fairly high, and these will be big boxes. Shipping to Europe, etc. could significantly add to the price. My email is in my profile - might get a quicker response than the PM system here. I can send photos or answer questions if needed.

Jim Scott

Email sent

Item #3 - Leather gig bag has sold.

All else is still available.

Jim

Is the baritone a sovereign or a new standard (or earlier?)

It's definitely pre-sovereign from the era when they were making the same horn and stamping Boosey Imperial on one and Besson on the next. I believe that after the two companies merged (Boosey bought Besson?) , the Besson name  was used more for the North American market and Boosey was for the British sales. I'm 99% sure that this is exactly the same horn as the Boosey Imperial that a colleague owns, but there's no model number on mine. Just Besson with a small "50 medals of excellence" engraved above, London, Paris, New York engraved below, and a small "made in England" below that. My colleague from work has read up on the Besson/Boosey merger in the mid-20th century(?), and they were making a lot of horns that were the same except for the engraving, kind of like, Ford and Lincoln, etc. I remember that the first Sovereigns were Booseys. I think sometime in the 80's or 90's, the Boosey name went away from their instruments.

My guess is that this horn is from the 60's. The major dents are gone, but there are a few smaller ones that would require un-soldering a few spots to get at them. Looks like about a 3 - 4 on a scale of 1 - 10; plays about a 7 - 8, in my opinion. Compensating 3 valves means that the concert "C's" and "B's" are pretty in tune with 1 & 3, and 1, 2 & 3. Usual issues (workable) with tuning in the higher registers - some alternate fingerings required on some longer, more exposed notes. Nothing more pronounced than on most newer valve instruments.

Jim

Price reductions:

1. Edwards case - now $140

2. Getzen case - now $100

3. Gig bag SOLD

4. Besson Baritone Horn - $460

New price reductions:

1. Edwards case - $125

2. Getzen case - $85

3. SOLD

4. Besson Baritone Horn - $440

Pics available on request - feel free to make offers

Jim

Last chance price reductions:

1. Edwards case- no longer for sale

2. Getzen case - $70 (this case is in great, almost new shape, and will fit most large tenors with various valves - email me if you have a question about if it will accept a particular horn, and I'll try to find an answer for you). Good protective traditional wooden case.

4. Besson Baritone Horn - $375 - without case - the gig bag that I had was for a larger instrument anyway, so I'll sell that separately. I believe that this model is called the New Standard based on some other Bessons from the same era for sale on eBay - can't guarantee that because that designation doesn't appear on the horn - it is the same as a Boosey Imperial. See earlier posts for descriptions of instrument condition, etc.

my email is in my profile - ask for pics, or make an offer.

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