Sexxxy, Hott, and...Heavy! (Favorite Counterweights)

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:22 pm

Hello.

I'm curious to know what people think of different counterweights. What are your favorite, asthetically?

Here are a few of mine.

Yamaha "Batwing" counterweight:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/instrumentalsavings/v/vspfiles/photos/YSL-897Z-11.jpg

Rath Tuning Slide Assembly:
https://www.thomann.de/pics/bdb/274732/5147172_800.jpg

The old H.N. White King weights:
http://www.joybrass.co.jp/TRB/TrbTnUsed/HNWhite2BSSu/IMG_7503.JPG

What are yours?

ttf_BGuttman · Post by **ttf_BGuttman** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:47 pm

My Martin Imperial has a solid bar as the tuning slide brace. No need of a counterweight.

I don't have a picture, but I love the "batwing" weight on my Olds TIS. It's huge and heavy. I'll try to put in a picture.

ttf_keybone · Post by **ttf_keybone** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:50 pm

You said sexy, so I had to look!

. I have the newer King weight, but I like the old one better. But I won't spend the dough for another weight.

If I didn't have brace on my King 3b tuning slide, I would consider the Rath weight. Nice, open look!

ttf_Matt K · Post by **ttf_Matt K** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:22 pm

Yamaha 645 torpedo. I bought one basically for the counterweight ...

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:52 pm

Quote from: Matt K on Apr 07, 2017, 06:22PMYamaha 645 torpedo. I bought one basically for the counterweight ...

Oh yeah, I love the torpedo weight. Except when it gets loose and starts spinning. The horn's not bad, either.

ttf_JohnL · Post by **ttf_JohnL** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:42 pm

The old Reynolds "R" is pretty cool, but my favorite has to the the Olds trombone-playing bear.

ttf_Geordie · Post by **ttf_Geordie** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:15 am

Ive got an Olds Recording from early 1960s with no counterweight. Is it possible to add a counterweight to that? Love the bear 'weight. Roughly how much would one of those cost?

ttf_Exzaclee · Post by **ttf_Exzaclee** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:21 am

The King HN white weights are my favorite, but some of the stuff DJ has made has been pretty awesome as well

ttf_JohnL · Post by **ttf_JohnL** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:47 pm

Quote from: Geordie on Apr 08, 2017, 12:15AMIve got an Olds Recording from early 1960s with no counterweight. Is it possible to add a counterweight to that? Love the bear 'weight. Roughly how much would one of those cost?Pricey. Horns with that counterweight are pretty rare.

ttf_Dombat · Post by **ttf_Dombat** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:18 pm

I love my baby.

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:51 pm

Quote from: Dombat on Apr 08, 2017, 03:18PM

I love my baby.
Wow...can you upload some better pictures of this horn? I'm very intrigued, but the aspect ratio is squashed.

ttf_Dombat · Post by **ttf_Dombat** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:29 am

ttf_Driswood · Post by **ttf_Driswood** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:06 pm

Silver plated three piece King style from Brasslab. Looks like a 1950's King weight. Put it on my 80's 3B, looks so much better than the black one.

Jerry Walker

ttf_davdud101 · Post by **ttf_davdud101** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:15 pm

Always loved the look of that old King counterweight. MAN, it looks slick!

ttf_58mark · Post by **ttf_58mark** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:53 pm

I did this for my daughter's besson

ttf_harrison.t.reed · Post by **ttf_harrison.t.reed** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:58 am

I like the Edwards harmonic brace.

ttf_TromboneMonkey · Post by **ttf_TromboneMonkey** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:41 am

http://www.brassark.com/thebrassarktrombone/brassarktrombone_4.jpg

ttf_Full Pedal Trombonist · Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm

Functionally I love the King three-piece weights.

Aesthetically I like the off-center Olds weights, the Rath weights, and those sweet curly Minick braces.

And personally I'd like to have just a single solid sphere of metal where the TS brace would connect to the small diameter end of the TS.

ttf_davdud101 · Post by **ttf_davdud101** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:47 pm

Quote from: 58mark on Apr 17, 2017, 08:53PMI did this for my daughter's besson

58mark, looks fantastic

! What's it made of? Heck, that whole end of the horn looks an awful lot like an Ambassador to my eyes.

ttf_58mark · Post by **ttf_58mark** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:15 pm

It's a besson stratford that I stripped, used wipe on silver for the bell, and them put satin lacquer on

ttf_Rockymountaintrombone · Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:38 pm

Another write-in - check out the hourglass-shaped counterweight that Edwards has designed for the new straight (no f attachment) version of the Alessi model. I do also like the old King counterweights, and the various modern ones that are based on them, like Shires and Brasslab models.

Jim Scott

ttf_Malec Heermans · Post by **ttf_Malec Heermans** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:39 pm

I'm into the simple stuff. I love the custom three piece weights like the ones from Brass Lab. Here is my old 42 with a custom 9 oz. weight:

https://goo.gl/photos/s8FMBrXqfr8iFYzg7

I also really dig the "built in" weights on the new Lawler horns.

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:43 pm

Quote from: Malec Heermans on Apr 26, 2017, 12:39PMI'm into the simple stuff. I love the custom three piece weights like the ones from Brass Lab. Here is my old 42 with a custom 9 oz. weight:

I also really dig the "built in" weights on the new Lawler horns.
No picture...looking forward to seeing it.

ttf_Malec Heermans · Post by **ttf_Malec Heermans** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:45 pm

Man the image functionality here is not so straightforward, but there's the link.

ttf_BGuttman · Post by **ttf_BGuttman** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:54 pm

Here's the picture:

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:29 pm

Clean.

ttf_Big Daddy K · Post by **ttf_Big Daddy K** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:02 am

Quote from: JohnL on Apr 07, 2017, 11:42PMThe old Reynolds "R" is pretty cool, but my favorite has to the the Olds trombone-playing bear.

PLEASE post more photos of this horn. SUPER COOL!!!

ttf_mwpfoot · Post by **ttf_mwpfoot** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:32 am

Quote from: Geordie on Apr 08, 2017, 12:15AMIve got an Olds Recording from early 1960s with no counterweight. Is it possible to add a counterweight to that? Love the bear 'weight. Roughly how much would one of those cost?
The Olds Bear is integrated into the bracing on those (very old) horns and not very heavy, either. Some versions have the bear back where the counterweight might be, others have it more forward by the player's ear.

Olds long ago made single screw aftermarket counterweights for Recordings, they are slick but hard to find. Here's mine, way back on the tuning slide:

So you can keep an eye out for one of those if you want the authentic Olds Recording counterweight experience, or use similar offerings from modern makers (if they fit the post).

ttf_mwpfoot · Post by **ttf_mwpfoot** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:38 am

Someone else's pic shows the engraving:

ttf_JohnL · Post by **ttf_JohnL** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:39 am

Quote from: Big Daddy K on Apr 27, 2017, 10:02AMPLEASE post more photos of this horn. SUPER COOL!!!http://itsabear.com/horns/BearSuper/bearsuper.html

ttf_Big Daddy K · Post by **ttf_Big Daddy K** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:02 am

Quote from: JohnL on Apr 27, 2017, 11:39AM http://itsabear.com/horns/BearSuper/bearsuper.html

Thanks so much for that!

ttf_Duffle · Post by **ttf_Duffle** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:15 am

Quote from: Dombat on Apr 09, 2017, 01:29AM

GReenhoe valve section.....nice.....

ttf_Dombat · Post by **ttf_Dombat** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:15 am

Quote from: Duffle on Apr 30, 2017, 02:15AMGReenhoe valve section.....nice.....
Bach 42 bell and tuning slide, greenhoe valve and Gopp straight gooseneck and counterweight, bach inner slides with Gopp outer. She looks after me.

ttf_Euphanasia · Post by **ttf_Euphanasia** » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 am

I've never seen one in person, but I always liked the counterweights on the Boosey & Hawkes 523.

ttf_Sliphorn · Post by **ttf_Sliphorn** » Fri May 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Quote from: Euphanasia on May 19, 2017, 08:26AMI've never seen one in person, but I always liked the counterweights on the Boosey & Hawkes 523.

Wow, very cool indeed.

ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Wed May 24, 2017 2:54 am

[thnx zzzzzzzzzzzzac !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: Exzaclee on Apr 08, 2017, 08:21AMThe King HN white weights are my favorite, but some of the stuff DJ has made has been pretty awesome as well

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ttf_dj kennedy · Post by **ttf_dj kennedy** » Wed May 24, 2017 2:54 am

[thnx zzzzzzzzzzzzac !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: Exzaclee on Apr 08, 2017, 08:21AMThe King HN white weights are my favorite, but some of the stuff DJ has made has been pretty awesome as well

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