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HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:28 pm
by bigtiny
Hi all,

I am new to trombone after playing trumpet for >50 years. I just bought a Conn Trombonium. Unfortunately my trombone mouthpiece seems to be too small for it. So what do I need? A trombone mouthpiece with a large shank?

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:35 pm
by Matt K
What model trombonium? And what mouthpiece?

I'm less familiar with them but I would be surprised if it wasn't a small shank. A lot of older horns have problems with the receiver after years of use. In that case, it would be best to take it to a tech to figure out what's wrong with it.

That said, some older mouthpieces didn't have standard shanks. While smallbore are more uniform than large bore from the time period, there were still some oddities including some Conn and Olds instruments.

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:45 pm
by Neo Bri
Could it be a Remington taper? Would that matter?

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:50 pm
by bigtiny
No it's definitely NOT a small shank. I was able to contact the guy who sold me the horn and he confirmed it's a large shank instrument. So, problem solved.

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:17 pm
by Matt K
bigtiny wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:50 pm No it's definitely NOT a small shank. I was able to contact the guy who sold me the horn and he confirmed it's a large shank instrument. So, problem solved.
The first of it's kind that I've heard of. Wonder if that was aftermarket!

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:11 pm
by BGuttman
The Conn 90G was a large bore instrument. Basically a "Trombonium" based on the 8H. I think Euphanasia was selling one not too long ago (has he signed up for this site?).

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:14 pm
by Matt K
BGuttman wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:11 pm The Conn 90G was a large bore instrument. Basically a "Trombonium" based on the 8H. I think Euphanasia was selling one not too long ago (has he signed up for this site?).
Ohhhhh. That instrument. I was confusing it with the thing that JJ Johnson and Kai Winding played on some albums. Or maybe I wasn't and I Just never thought about it. Both are possible :biggrin:

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:22 pm
by Neo Bri
Matt K wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:14 pm
BGuttman wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:11 pm The Conn 90G was a large bore instrument. Basically a "Trombonium" based on the 8H. I think Euphanasia was selling one not too long ago (has he signed up for this site?).
Ohhhhh. That instrument. I was confusing it with the thing that JJ Johnson and Kai Winding played on some albums. Or maybe I wasn't and I Just never thought about it. Both are possible :biggrin:
Didn't they play Kings on that album? And - I'd be surprised to see large bore in their hands at all!

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:43 pm
by BGuttman
The King Trombonium (which is why I used quotes to describe the Conn horn) is a small bore instrument. JJ and Kai played small bore Kings on the albums. I think JJ had a King 3B slide mated to a 2B bell.

Re: HELP? What mouthpiece do I buy?

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:55 pm
by bigtiny
This is a Conn with a bell from an 88H on it....large bore I think. I believe it's from the '70s.