Trombone Chat Group Video Take 2

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 pm

OK folks, let try this again.

I got Randy Malmstrom's arrangement of Carol of the Bells/We Wish You A Merry Christmas from Cherry Classics. This tune, while simpler than the other one, does have it's challenges. There are some fermatas and tempo changes. The first part goes to a high D and the bass part goes to a pedal D. So take a look at the parts and pick one that you can actually play. Don't try to be a hero.

Here is the folder where you can look at the parts. It's the same link as before:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

I have messaged Randy and asked if he can generate a midi of this to using for a backup track. If he can't do that, I will work on a click/voiceover track.

For those of you who don't know Randy, he has a ton of great arrangements on Cherry Classics. If you need trombone choir music, take a look at his stuff. There is also an Air Force base named after his uncle, who was a bit of a war hero in WWII. He is an aviation junkie and if you follow his FB, you will see lots of pics of old planes.

Thanks for your patience with this and hopefully we can still knock out a good video by Christmas.

MStarke · Post by **MStarke** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:49 am

To me this arrangement looks far more realistic for this kind of project. Thanks for purchasing and sharing!
Individual parts still offer something for everyone from high to low, but it looks to me like it is far easier to get it in sync.

I would try to find the time to record one part - open to any of them.
But I honestly don't know if I find the time soon. During the week it is hardly possible at all for me and the weekends become busy with Christmas stuff now.

mahlertwo · Post by **mahlertwo** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:37 am

Same deal as Markus. I'll try, not sure if I'll have time.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:50 am

We don't need as many people for this one, but I would like for anyone who made an effort on the other to have a shot at it. Here is a sign up sheet for parts.

I have to work up a backup track for this still. Randy did not have a midi for it.

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:17 am

Count me in on 2a.

If anyone else is really keen on that part, I’m happy to swap if required, just let me know.

By the way, I‘ve got a couple of options which may be able to scan in the notes and be the basis for a mid. I‘ll try it out and post the results.

Elow · Post by **Elow** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:42 am

I would be willing to do a seperate video if anyone who wants to play couldnt. It would be this arrangement, If you’re interested pm me or email and i’ll send the pdf. It’s only 4 parts so maybe just 6 people. I’ll make a groupchat with peoples numbers so we don’t need a post on the forum. Email me if your interested

DDoghouse · Post by **DDoghouse** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:31 am

Is there any way we could establish in advance the value of the staccato-tenuto quarter notes?

I'm going to take a whack at 1a today, but am not putting my name on the list till I see how that works out!

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:58 am

Mike, I‘ve sent you the MuseScore, XML and MID by email, should be a decent basis.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:46 pm

Hey everybody,

Glad to know that there are folks on here who are way better with music technology than I am. Richard was able to import the score into Musescore and convert it to an mp3 that we can use for a backup track. We should have that done by Friday at the latest.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:38 am

Update - I have everything from Richard and should be able to get the backup track out tonight. So please take a look at the signup sheet and pick a part. So far, we only have 3 signed up. I am happy to play whichever tenor part is available. Harrison - if you want to play that high stuff on alto, no one will complain.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:07 am

I think the best parts for me are Tenor 1b, 2a, or 2b.

Tenor 1a is a stretch due to the high E - it'll sound pinched. And I'm not comfortable enough with pedals to play either bass part; especially 3b.

So do you want me to double up on 1b, 2a, or 2b? Or maybe there's someone who's already signed up that's able to tackle 1a cleanly?

Alternatively, I can give 1a a shot. Just expect the high D & E to need muting.

bwanamfupi · Post by **bwanamfupi** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:25 am

I signed up for 2B, but I can shift to 3A if needed.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:56 pm

OK folks, the backup track is up and can be downloaded from here:

You will probably need to listen to this a time or two before attempting a recording to get the feel of how the click track is handling the tempo changes and fermatas.

We still need folks to put their names on the sign up sheet so we know who is playing what. Thanks.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:00 pm

I just spent the last couple of hours recording the 4 tenor parts for this. Things to watch out for when you record -

It's tough to hear the pickup to 85 where the bass has the we wish you melody for the first time. That took several attempts.

The time changes at the end require a lot of listening to get the right tempo.

Other than that, is is pretty straight forward. Somebody said something about a high E in 1A. Fortunately, it tops out at a high D and those are fairly short notes.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:56 pm

That was me with the comment about high E.

Regardless, high D doesn’t speak well for me either. I’ll give it a shot if no one signs up for that part. But I think I’ll make a much better contribution on another part.

So bwanamfupi, if you really don’t mind and feel comfortable with 3A, then I’d be very grateful if we swap.

bwanamfupi · Post by **bwanamfupi** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:42 am

glenp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:56 pm
So bwanamfupi, if you really don’t mind and feel comfortable with 3A, then I’d be very grateful if we swap.

Sure, no problem. I've just moved my name on the signup sheet.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:06 am

bwanamfupi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:42 am Sure, no problem. I've just moved my name on the signup sheet.

Thanks! I signed up for 2B.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:40 am

Well since nobody else seemed to want it, I signed up for 1A. We need a serious bass player for 3B. Is Brian Keegan still out there? He killed it on the other one.

bassbone721 · Post by **bassbone721** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:29 pm

I've got everything in my schedule sorted out so I can record a part. I think I should be good for 3b if no one else can do it.

Post by **Neo Bri** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:59 pm

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:40 am Well since nobody else seemed to want it, I signed up for 1A. We need a serious bass player for 3B. Is Brian Keegan still out there? He killed it on the other one.

Still here. And thanks for the compliment. Honestly, I was disappointed since I (and all of us really) put in a lot of time and effort to the last one, only to have it scrapped. I understand why, of course. And also a special thanks to both Joey and Mike for putting in even more time and effort in the project than the rest of us. I was going to stay out of this one just because, but I can cover a part if needed. You mentioned the top part having no one on it. I'd happily play the alto 1 part since I play more alto these days than anything else, but I can cover whatever.

I think Bananicorn might be interested again, though she might be busy for several days. What's the timeframe?

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:08 pm

No huge rush. By next weekend would be good. I just want to get it out by a week or so before Christmas.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:14 pm

bassbone721 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:29 pm I've got everything in my schedule sorted out so I can record a part. I think I should be good for 3b if no one else can do it.

Cool. That one had a nice pedal D at the end.

vetsurginc · Post by **vetsurginc** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:07 pm

Do you want two on a part or go with the 6 currently listed?

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:22 pm

Two to part would be fine.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:27 am

Neo Bri wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:59 pm
Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:40 am Well since nobody else seemed to want it, I signed up for 1A. We need a serious bass player for 3B. Is Brian Keegan still out there? He killed it on the other one.
Still here. And thanks for the compliment. Honestly, I was disappointed since I (and all of us really) put in a lot of time and effort to the last one, only to have it scrapped. I understand why, of course. And also a special thanks to both Joey and Mike for putting in even more time and effort in the project than the rest of us. I was going to stay out of this one just because, but I can cover a part if needed. You mentioned the top part having no one on it. I'd happily play the alto 1 part since I play more alto these days than anything else, but I can cover whatever.

I think Bananicorn might be interested again, though she might be busy for several days. What's the timeframe?

Hey Brian - if you do another video, can you try to set the camera to where we see more than just your head?

And a reminder for everyone - Youtube is a visual medium. So try to get a video where we can see your face and horn and upper body. Shoot from about a 15 degree angle from the right side to keep the bell from blocking your face. Keep the music stand out of the shot and try not to have too much junk behind you. Also, watch your lighting. You need a well lit room, but you don't want to have a bright light behind you as it makes the shot overexposed. Definitely don't stand in front of a window.

Post by **Neo Bri** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:41 am

What part would you like me to do? 1A or 3B?

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm

I did 1a, so 3b would be great. Or both if you want.

bassbone721 · Post by **bassbone721** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:54 pm

I don't know if I missed it, but where should we put our recordings once we're done?

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:00 pm

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:20 pm

Here is a draft of what we have so far. Basically, this is just me and Brian. We are both on 1 A. I am on 1b, 2a, 2b and 3a and he is on 3B.

Obviously there is a bit of tweaking to be done but I think this one will come together nicely.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:12 am

Hey everyone - we are coming up on the weekend. So far, I only have videos from Brian. This is the sign up sheet.

Part TC User Name Real Name

Tenor 1A MikebMiller Mike Miller
Tenor 1A
Tenor 1B bbalika Brett Balika
Tenor 1B
Tenor 2A MrHCinDE Richard Hibberts-Caswell
Tenor 2A
Tenor 2B glenp Glen Pfeiffer
Tenor 2B
Bass 3A bwanamfupi Shawn Collins
Bass 3A
Bass 3B bassbone721 Ryan Liu
Bass 3B Neo Bri Brian Keegan

If you want to be part of this, please try to get me your video by Sunday night. I would hate for it to just be 2 of us on there.

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:06 am

Hi Mike, the audio for 2a is up, I'll try and do the video tomorrow morning.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:33 am

MrHCinDE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:06 am Hi Mike, the audio for 2a is up, I'll try and do the video tomorrow morning.

Thanks. I got it. Sounds great!

I still need a few more parts if you guys want this to be more than a trio.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:41 am

I’ll try to record today but if not I can definitely do it tomorrow at the latest.

DDoghouse · Post by **DDoghouse** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:22 am

Okay, I threatened to do one several days ago, but I got swamped with other obligations. I just signed up for 1B, I'll get it in the can today.

Edit: I meant 1B, not A

mahlertwo · Post by **mahlertwo** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:33 pm

Got hit with two major practical final projects, a final exam, and a research paper all due fairly directly. Have been working 12-hour days since Thursday and will continue until Wednesday-ish. Still good to submit then? I'll submit bass 3a.

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:36 am

Hi Mike, the video for 2a is up.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:16 am

Thanks. We have a quartet!

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 am

And I like the lights. Appropriately tacky.

MrHCinDE · Post by **MrHCinDE** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:24 am

Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 am And I like the lights. Appropriately tacky.

Thanks, I couldn’t afford the dog’s fee this time.

mahlertwo · Post by **mahlertwo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:39 pm

MrHCinDE wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:24 am
Mikebmiller wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 am And I like the lights. Appropriately tacky.
Thanks, I couldn’t afford the dog’s fee this time.

Shows up in one video and thinks he's a superstar. Really letting the celebrity go to his head.

bassbone721 · Post by **bassbone721** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:15 pm

I got the 3b video and audio up. When editing you can mute the video.

DDoghouse · Post by **DDoghouse** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:12 pm

Just uploaded audio for 1B. Video to follow shortly.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:38 pm

You guys are all killing it. This is going to sound great.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:06 pm

mahlertwo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:33 pm Got hit with two major practical final projects, a final exam, and a research paper all due fairly directly. Have been working 12-hour days since Thursday and will continue until Wednesday-ish. Still good to submit then? I'll submit bass 3a.

Joey we already have that part covered in the video, so don't feel obligated. I hope to have this thing in the can by sometime tomorrow.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:18 am

Recording for 2B is uploaded.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:15 am

Hey guys (and once again it's just guys) - I have all the parts covered for audio and video. Thanks to everyone who helped out. Give me a day or 2 to finish this thing up.

No Elbonians were harmed in the making of this video.

DDoghouse · Post by **DDoghouse** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:21 pm

TB 1b video is uploaded to go along with the audio track.

Mikebmiller · Post by **Mikebmiller** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:47 pm

Dan - I apologize - I was working on this and didn't see that you had uploaded that video. I am kind of at the point now where adding anything else to the video mix would take a lot of undoing stuff that has been done. I have you in the audio and I can add your name to the credits.

In fact, here is a draft of the final thing:

I wanted everyone to take a look and make sure I spelled your name right in the credits and so forth before putting it on YouTube.

It's not perfect. Getting all the slides to match up with the notes is a big challenge. If we were sax players, no one would notice if the wrong key was down. So let me know if there is anything (hopefully minor) that you thing I need to change before publishing.

glenp · Post by **glenp** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:07 pm

Looking good guys!!

I confirmed that my info and spelling is correct in the credits. As for suggested changes, it appears that my video is about 1 beat ahead of the music. But it seemed consistently ahead through the entire piece. Are you able to shift that a bit?

Thanks again to Mike for your work with the editing.