Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
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Re: Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
Lots of pics of the early horns here:
https://www.hnwhite.com/serial%20model% ... htm#Simons
Curved brace goes way back! The bell on T's horn looks small to me, perhaps even 7".
https://www.hnwhite.com/serial%20model% ... htm#Simons
Curved brace goes way back! The bell on T's horn looks small to me, perhaps even 7".
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Re: Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
Great video.
Thanks for sharing it.
Good way to kick off a Teagarden Youtube rabbit hole.
Now someone needs to start a thread trying to figure out what mouthpiece he is using.
Thanks for sharing it.
Good way to kick off a Teagarden Youtube rabbit hole.

Now someone needs to start a thread trying to figure out what mouthpiece he is using.

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What a great clip! Not just Big T, but all the other people in this group deserve recognition.
Given the date of the recording and the fact that King was making the 2B since 1935, I would guess Jack is playing a 2B.
As to what mouthpiece, the way he's holding the trombone it's nearly impossible to tell.
Given the date of the recording and the fact that King was making the 2B since 1935, I would guess Jack is playing a 2B.
As to what mouthpiece, the way he's holding the trombone it's nearly impossible to tell.
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I have read the Big T was an equipment geek and even had a small lathe to alter a MP on the road. One day I watched a dozen Youtube videos in a row of Jack and every horn was different.
This could be a fun conversation.
This could be a fun conversation.
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Re: Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
Looks like a 2B to me. Jack changed horns the way the rest of us change socks, so who knows what he even played on the next gig.
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No kidding regarding variety...I've been on a Teagarden kick lately and am impressed with the number of different horns he used; I've seen Conn, Reynolds, Williams, Selmer, King, and a few different Martins.
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Re: Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
Ya gotta wonder about that one. It sounds like a really excellent close muted cornet, and a style that doesn't sound like T, and it doesn't sound like the guy on cornet either. Yet if it's a lip-sync, it's near perfect.
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That's Big T's "beer glass" trick. Instead of playing a whole trombone he put a beer glass over the slide tenon. The horn is now as short as a cornet but develops a rather different sound. I've tried this with a few glasses and couldn't match what he does (nor can I play anywhere in the same universe
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Re: Jack Teadgarden's King Trombone
Yeah - it's hard to do that well, but it's not hard to do. If you stay within the 3rd - 8th partials things are still vaguely vertical.BGuttman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:19 am That's Big T's "beer glass" trick. Instead of playing a whole trombone he put a beer glass over the slide tenon. The horn is now as short as a cornet but develops a rather different sound. I've tried this with a few glasses and couldn't match what he does (nor can I play anywhere in the same universe).