How cold is too cold...

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5:00 AM this morning -10 degrees out. 7:00 it was 13 below zero. Stream through the front of our property frozen over, but not very thick. Had a winter in mid 90s down around -20 for several days, stream frozen thick enough this guy that’s built for feed and not for speed could safely walk,across the whole way. There’s a 99% chance if you like winter, you don’t own livestock. Bovines, equines, and chickens seem to have a need for liquid water year round. At least inside the barn, the ice isn’t too thick on top or sides of the water tub. I’m out in farm country. My sister is about 15 miles away in the town we grew up in. School was cancelled totally for today and tomorrow there, and here also. Nice size dairy farm near our place, funny that the cows are still getting milked twice a day there.

Back in the early 60s the local amusement park that has a small stream-fed lake parked an older Studebaker on the ice of the lake in January. Contest to guess when it would break through then started. That puppy stayed up on the ice well into March.

Wouldn’t mind having that old Studebaker now!
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BrassSection wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:51 pm There’s a 99% chance if you like winter, you don’t own livestock.
I'm really curious where this statistic comes from. It's not my experience at all -- except possibly and partly as a consequence of most people not owning livestock. (Append vague reference to statistical inferential fallacies here.) Anyhow, it defies belief once you think about it for a moment, and certainly there are a lot of things to like about winter than having to do the usual chores. Summer can be even worse. And cows need to be milked (at least dairy cows do) when they need to be milked. Cows don't care about much -- including the weather. The real point is that if you have to take care of a farm, it's a tough row to hoe (Hah! See what I did there?) no matter what season it is. But aside from that ...

When I was in graduate school in Rochester (1969-1973), during the depths of the winter people who lived across the Genesee River from campus used to walk back and forth to campus classes across the river. By the way, while I was in graduate school, I spent a lot of time working on an Angus farm between Rochester and Syracuse -- year 'round. So I kind of know the routine on northern farms ... and cows ... and horses ... and chickens ... and baling ... and ... never mind. :roll:
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10-15 degC, for most Thai people.

(My limit is around 3-6 degC though.)
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ghmerrill wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:56 pm
BrassSection wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:51 pm There’s a 99% chance if you like winter, you don’t own livestock.
I'm really curious where this statistic comes from. It's not my experience at all -- except possibly and partly as a consequence of most people not owning livestock.
A recent study of statistics found that 97.8% of all statistics were made up on the spot.
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People have been saying that for decades. I'm beginning to suspect that the study isn't recent. :)
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BrassSection wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:51 pm 5:00 AM this morning -10 degrees out. 7:00 it was 13 below zero. Stream through the front of our property frozen over, but not very thick. Had a winter in mid 90s down around -20 for several days
Is that in real Temperature or Fahrenheit?
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MahlerMusic wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:51 am
BrassSection wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:51 pm 5:00 AM this morning -10 degrees out. 7:00 it was 13 below zero. Stream through the front of our property frozen over, but not very thick. Had a winter in mid 90s down around -20 for several days
Is that in real Temperature or Fahrenheit?
Christian units (°F), I believe. ;)
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For calibration:

0°F is -18°C
-40°F is -40°C

So -10°F is around -25°C
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MahlerMusic wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:51 am
BrassSection wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:51 pm 5:00 AM this morning -10 degrees out. 7:00 it was 13 below zero. Stream through the front of our property frozen over, but not very thick. Had a winter in mid 90s down around -20 for several days
Is that in real Temperature or Fahrenheit?
Good old Fahrenheit, without any wind chill factor figured in. Have a spirit filled glass and digital thermometers within 2’ of each other reading the same temp.
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BrassSection wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:52 pm
MahlerMusic wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:51 am

Is that in real Temperature or Fahrenheit?
Good old Fahrenheit, without any wind chill factor figured in. Have a spirit filled glass and digital thermometers within 2’ of each other reading the same temp.
Now, that is cold and if it is the same type of Humid cold that Canada gets around the great lakes that is :eek: .
We are getting down to -29°C this weekend but it is a dry cold were I am so it is not as bad.

In general, I can't complain because our winter has been really mild... too mild. I have been trying to build an Ice Igloo in our backyard for the kids but it keep raising above freezing which is not common.
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