looking for a heavier bass mp
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looking for a heavier bass mp
hey all, I currently have a Douglas yeo mp and I'm looking an obnoxiously heavy mouthpiece, any recs?
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AR Resonance mouthpieces are fairly heavy!
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whySamEdwTbone wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:17 am hey all, I currently have a Douglas yeo mp and I'm looking an obnoxiously heavy mouthpiece, any recs?
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Doesn't heavy just make it harder to play?
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Like this?
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free will brotherBurgerbob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:47 amwhySamEdwTbone wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:17 am hey all, I currently have a Douglas yeo mp and I'm looking an obnoxiously heavy mouthpiece, any recs?
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I prefer heavier mouthpieces
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The Yeo is already quite a massy mouthpiece. What is it not doing?
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Why? What about them makes them better for you than lighter mouthpieces?
Also, WHERE the mass is can be just as important as how much their is. Getting a mouthpiece simply because it "looks cool" or "weighs a ton" is, not, IMHO, an effective way to search for a better fit.
As others have said, the Doug Yeo is a fairly substantial mouthpiece in terms of weight.
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What other heavy mouthpieces have you played, and what did you like about them?
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Curry mouthpieces are fairly heavy. 2D and 1 1/2D are heavy.
Doug's mouthpieces with the biggest blank are pretty heavy. For example, get an XB instead of LB, and there's a good bit of weight there.
Doug's mouthpieces with the biggest blank are pretty heavy. For example, get an XB instead of LB, and there's a good bit of weight there.
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had a 1g for awhile but then I switched to a Douglas yeo yamahaJeffBone44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:03 pmWhat other heavy mouthpieces have you played, and what did you like about them?
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it feels sharper, if that makes sensetbonesullivan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:43 pmWhy? What about them makes them better for you than lighter mouthpieces?
Also, WHERE the mass is can be just as important as how much their is. Getting a mouthpiece simply because it "looks cool" or "weighs a ton" is, not, IMHO, an effective way to search for a better fit.
As others have said, the Doug Yeo is a fairly substantial mouthpiece in terms of weight.
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A few that come to mind…… Bach-Megatone, Ferguson, Griego-Classic-Deco, Greg Black-Heavy, Stork-Heavy, Pickett-Regular blanks. Not sure about DE, but I’m sure he’d talk to you about it.
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Doug Elliott XB is the big boy series.
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ok, which mouthpiece did you use that was heavier that felt "sharper" than the Doug Yeo?
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A Bach 1G is fairly light IIRC, because they cut their bass mouthpieces from the same blanks as tenor mouthpieces. So the bass mouthpieces wind up being thin.SamEdwTbone wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:55 pmhad a 1g for awhile but then I switched to a Douglas yeo yamahaJeffBone44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:03 pm
What other heavy mouthpieces have you played, and what did you like about them?
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Go for a Greg Black 1G in heavy weight. That'll take care of you.
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I would just have the smallest Yaris welded onto your current mp. Now that would be obnoxiously heavy.
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For some more or less representative A/B testing you could also use some detachable weight, like one of those "tone rings" that I think you can buy from multiple makers. If they fit the Yeo.
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Check out the Bob Reeves O bass. Might just be what you're after!
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Yuppers!GabrielRice wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:53 pm Go for a Greg Black 1G in heavy weight. That'll take care of you.
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FYI none of that is a good way to choose a mouthpiece.
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Agreed for the most part. Some, like me, were having a bit of fun since the OP used obnoxiously heavy in his description. A Yaris welded onto his Yeo would qualify as that.Doug Elliott wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:22 pm FYI none of that is a good way to choose a mouthpiece.
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Heavy enough for ya?
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Hi all .
I tried quite a few heavyweight mpcs . In my opinion , they dampen the resonance and the response , expecially in the medium / medium high ranges , so I do not like it .
Anyway , the Bach 1G Megatone was the best one among the pieces I tested ( the " best of the worst"..) .
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I tried quite a few heavyweight mpcs . In my opinion , they dampen the resonance and the response , expecially in the medium / medium high ranges , so I do not like it .
Anyway , the Bach 1G Megatone was the best one among the pieces I tested ( the " best of the worst"..) .
Regards
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My photo in the previous post was a custom mouthpiece made for me in the 90s by Schilke to my specs and design. It's basically a 60 rim, cup and backbore with the added mass on the outside. Shows how versatile CNC machines can be.
At the time it cost me a pretty penny and the result was not stellar. My hope was that it would channel more sound energy through the horn. It doesn't. It IS great for keeping papers from blowing off my desk.
At the time it cost me a pretty penny and the result was not stellar. My hope was that it would channel more sound energy through the horn. It doesn't. It IS great for keeping papers from blowing off my desk.
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Maybe needs a clothespin adapter for windy outdoor gigs
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I think it was mandatory in the 90s for Bass trombone players to try something with a custom mod 60…. I think we’ve all got one that cost us extra, had a decent wait time and was pretty quickly obviously useless.baBposaune wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:37 am My photo in the previous post was a custom mouthpiece made for me in the 90s by Schilke to my specs and design. It's basically a 60 rim, cup and backbore with the added mass on the outside. Shows how versatile CNC machines can be.
At the time it cost me a pretty penny and the result was not stellar. My hope was that it would channel more sound energy through the horn. It doesn't. It IS great for keeping papers from blowing off my desk.
I used to buzz on mine in the car,
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I had a custom 60 with a Bach-length shank made by Scott Laskey at Schilke in 1988. I asked for heavier...he made it lighter

It was a great mouthpiece but too big for me at the time. I've tried to buy it back in recent years from the friend I sold it to, but he refuses to part with it.
More recently I acquired another Schilke/Laskey custom 60 with a little lighter blank and "loaned" it to a student. He won't give it back to me either!
In both cases I ended up settling on a mouthpiece from Doug Elliott

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Yup. Same. I have not gone crazy with DE set ups but for various musical needs and wants I currently have 3 sizes of LB cups, 3 rims and 3 shanks. That covers orchestra work, big band and chamber music and while I occasionally dabble with other mouthpieces I own I always come back to the DE mouthpieces cuz they just damn work!