Soloing over interesting chord

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Soloing over interesting chord

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Hello, a Jazz chart which I am playing has us solo over an E flat Major triad with a pedal E underneath. Any tips and tricks for doing this?
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Hi Folks.

I think that this chord symbol , Eb maj triad/ E , may have been written in relation to an E diminished chord ( E° ) .
You can read the Eb triad as D# , G , Bb , which would be the major 7th ( D#) , the minor 3rd ( G) , the b5th (Bb) of the E° chord .
So the chord can be E , G , Bb , D# . The common E diminished chord would be E, G, Bb , Db ; in this case is highlighted the maj 7th (D#) , instead of the diminished 7th (Db) .
You can play over this chord the E diminished scale ( 1 step - 1/2 step) : E , F# , G , A , Bb , C , Db , Eb .
Also , on a diminished chord , we can have an Upper Structure Triad on the major 7th grade of the scale ( and on the 2nd , 4th , b6th grades too) .
In this case , on the E°chord , this UST would be Eb/G/Bb.

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Giancarlo
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Giancarlo's suggestions work, but the context of this chord is important to know. Is it a 1 chord vamp over a long period of time or is it an isolated chord in a progression? What is the basic tonality of the chart as a whole? Certain elements that happen in the chart can change around how I might approach playing over that chord.

Slash chords like this are interesting. It's always tempting to simply look at the chord on top and ignore the bass tone, but the bass tone can essentially change the harmonic function of the chord. Context will help here.

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Hi all.
Hi David .

I supposed that it was referred to a "open" solo over this chord ( or a 8 - 16 bars duration chord ) , being that OP wrote "A jazz chart has us SOLO OVER AN Eb MAJOR TRIAD WITH A PEDAL E".

Of course , like you said , we have always to check at the context .

For example , if it were inserted in a chord progression , for a duration of one bar or so , followed let say by a F major chord , it could have a dominant function , being that we can see this chord as a C7#9 ( E would be the major 3rd , G the 5th , Bb the minor7 , D# the #9 ).
Anyway , I think that the E° chord scale would work also in this case (E°, as G°, Bb°,Db° , can be seen as D#7b9 , F#7b9 , A7b9, C7b9 ) .

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Giancarlo
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